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Re:Oracle allegedly underpaid $400M in wages to underreprese... by Domenic_S on Wednesday January 23, 2019 @04:55PM (#18983492)
It properly answers the question that they replied to, "What are you doing where people are making close to 2x what you need to be in top 1% of income?"

S/He replied that it's not what you're doing, it's where you're doing it.

It's why judging on these income bands makes no sense. $300k household income with kids is comfortable but not rich in SV, but you'd be living like royalty in most of the rest of the US.

Re:Oracle allegedly underpaid $400M in wages to underreprese... by vonseel on Wednesday January 23, 2019 @07:07PM (#18984625)
What defines rich? Private jets and Lamborghinis?

I’m not familiar with the SF cost of living, but Nerd Wallet says a 2 bedroom apartment is about $4k per month. I figured $7k is more accurate so I’ll assume $96k in rent per year.

$300k is roughly taxed at 75k for an individual with no exemptions and standard deduction. That leaves $225k of actual cash to spend or save.

Ok, so after rent and taxes we’re at about $129k. I see cost of living for food and transportation is higher than Texas, but I bet you also drive less. Does that fancy tech company provide meals once per day or more? I bet they do. So, you have $125k left to spend on food, transportation, bills, entertainment, and invest.

If you invest 20% of your gross income - $60k - you’re still left with $65k to spend on those things. That’s $5400 per month or so. I’d bet that buys a lot of $15 coffees and $30 lunches. Or hookers and cocaine, if that’s what you’re into.

Re:Oracle allegedly underpaid $400M in wages to underreprese... by Domenic_S on Wednesday January 23, 2019 @08:06PM (#18985086)
Oh man, you grossly underestimate what we pay for taxes in CA. You forgot FICA (4.4% effective) and State tax (8.28% effective) for a total tax burden of $114,536. That leaves $185k of cash to spend or save, $89k after rent, $77k after a meager 4% 401k contribution.

Everything is more expensive. Insurance is more expensive. Gas is more expensive. Movies, ubers, doctors, groceries, sales tax, you name it.

While that leftover $77k isn't exactly hand-to-mouth poor by any stretch, compare it to some other state -- what is a fairly decent middle-class family wage in the Valley is a truly bonkers amount of money almost anywhere else in the US (or world, probably)

Re:Oracle allegedly underpaid $400M in wages to underreprese... by ryandrake on Wednesday January 23, 2019 @09:17PM (#18985433)
It is very expensive but still not that bad. I live in Silicon Valley too and I’ll say that $300k is a huge salary here. If I made that I could live extremely well in all but the most expensive Bay Area communities. Not private jet rich but far above a middle class lifestyle.

If someone’s struggling (EDIT: just comfortable) with $300k I don’t know what to tell ya.

Re:Oracle allegedly underpaid $400M in wages to underreprese... by Domenic_S on Wednesday January 23, 2019 @10:56PM (#18985836)
I never said it was struggling, in fact I explicitly said it wasn’t. The context of the thread was... well, just read it.
Re:Oracle allegedly underpaid $400M in wages to underreprese... by ryandrake on Wednesday January 23, 2019 @11:01PM (#18985856)
You're right--edited. Thanks!
Re:Oracle allegedly underpaid $400M in wages to underreprese... by vonseel on Friday January 25, 2019 @08:35PM (#19004162)
Very good point on other taxes. In Texas we don't have state income tax, so I forgot about those, but we do have property taxes and sales tax...

I haven't been to a movie in at least 4 years, so I don't really add things like that into my budgeting. Everything else.. sure, it's more expensive, but some of it is only 30-50% more expensive, and $300k is easily double the salary one would receive in most other states.