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Re:Everything I want to do is Illegal by KirinDave on Wednesday May 14, 2008 @01:13PM (#189777)
But many of these choices lead to things which are destructive to others. For example, lots of people are resisting vaccination despite overwhelming scientific evidence that there is no link between autism and vaccination. These people let their children rely on the herd immunity of the first world.

If everyone followed this strategy, many people would die as a consequence of even a relatively small segment of the population's choice. At some point, your freedom ends and another's begins. Drawing that line is really hard, especially when some people are frantically trying to give it up and others are frantically taking it for personal gain.

Of course, not all cases are equal.

Re:Everything I want to do is Illegal by peteg on Thursday May 15, 2008 @12:48PM (#190656)
Whereas other people examine the studies and testimonies and see overwhelming evidence that there is a link.

This is the problem with a government one size fits all system. There isn't necessarily one right answer. And in a system like ours where what government does is influenced most by big pharmaceutical agriculture corporations who have a business interest in sick people and sick animals, well you're likely not to get the right answer at all.

Re:Everything I want to do is Illegal by smanek on Wednesday May 14, 2008 @01:23PM (#189788)
Not true. Wouldn't people who chose to get vaccinated live, and those who don't would die?

That sounds like the tragedy of the commons.

Re:Everything I want to do is Illegal by KirinDave on Wednesday May 14, 2008 @01:43PM (#189807)
Many vaccines sadly aren't 100% effective. The reason they work so well is because if _everyone_ is vaccinated the immunities of the group reduce exposure to the group, a kind of self-reinforcement.

And the more a vaccinated person is exposed to a disease, the more permutations of that disease get thrown at the vaccinated population. If one takes, then we have the whole problem of the disease all over again. One consequence of the short life of bacteria and the mutation of viruses is that they're basically brute-forcing our immunities of every population they're in contact with.

This is why it's _so important_ that people follow vaccination programs. Eventually we'll have to deal with new diseases, but if we aggressively and correctly vaccinate, we can stave off that day for a lot longer than if we half-ass it.

Re:Everything I want to do is Illegal by Andys on Wednesday May 14, 2008 @06:05PM (#190036)
Sounds good in theory. In practice, there have been disease outbreaks in communities with 100% vaccination rates against that disease. Most vaccines don't even cover all the known strains, forget the new mutations.

IMO, vaccination is no replacement for promoting a strong natural immunity and preventative medicine. Both of which are virtually thrown out the window in modern medicine.

Re:Everything I want to do is Illegal by KirinDave on Wednesday May 14, 2008 @08:21PM (#190144)
I'm for any medicine that can be proven to work through the techniques espoused by modern medical science. If you can prove it works in a placebo-controlled double-(or dare-i-dream-triple?)-blind study, then I'm all for it.

Anything less means "controlled study needed."

Re:Everything I want to do is Illegal by evgen on Wednesday May 14, 2008 @07:01PM (#190068)
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Re:Everything I want to do is Illegal by smanek on Wednesday May 14, 2008 @01:48PM (#189813)
Good point. You may be right then (depending on the specific number, that I don't know), that this is a situation where regulation is called for.