If I could go back and do it all again there'd be two or three more swung fists. Probably no more than that, either, because that's all it would take.

In fact I think this debate would be really different if defending yourself against being bullied actually required sustained violence, but instead rather we're in a world where I can ask "How many people have killed themselves that could have been saved by them instead swinging their fists once?" and get a number probably at least in the thousands.

This isn't just a philosophy debating match; children are dying over this, and a lot more are getting badly hurt.