50 Years Ago, the Sugar Industry Paid Scientists to Blame Fat (2016)

Re:50 Years Ago, the Sugar Industry Paid Scientists to Blame... by dalore on Saturday January 19, 2019 @07:04AM (#18946595)

Have a read of books by Nina Teicholz or Gary Taubes. In there is a mountain of data showing the correlation of diets to adopting the national dietary recommendation (which vilified fats).

They all make a great case that fat is good for you (proper fat like animal, not vegetables oils which really aren't from vegetables at all).

You're right it's more than just sugar, it's carbs in general. Which includes French fries, pizza etc. The sauces they have tend to be loaded with sugar also.

One can still be healthy eating no vegetables and just meat. Just cut out carbs. And eat lots of organ meats which have high vitamin content (more than vegetables).

Another problem with cutting the fat is that vitamins are fat soluble. So no fat makes it harder to absorb.

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Re:50 Years Ago, the Sugar Industry Paid Scientists to Blame... by chefkoch on Saturday January 19, 2019 @09:49AM (#18947292)

>roper fat like animal, not vegetables oils which really aren't from vegetables at all

Why is the oil not from vegetables?

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Re:50 Years Ago, the Sugar Industry Paid Scientists to Blame... by ericd on Saturday January 19, 2019 @11:34AM (#18947773)

I’m guessing they mean they’re oftentimes from seeds.

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Re:50 Years Ago, the Sugar Industry Paid Scientists to Blame... by Udik on Saturday January 19, 2019 @12:29PM (#18948039)

And seeds are not vegetables?

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Re:50 Years Ago, the Sugar Industry Paid Scientists to Blame... by dalore on Monday January 21, 2019 @10:11AM (#18960851)

Vegetables are really usually seed oils like sunflower oil and so aren't vegetables at all really. Although you can get oils from the vegetable part of the plant. They are called vegetable oils though and not seed oils as a marketing ploy to help sell them. To make them it involves an extreme process which leaves them volatile and so when cooked transform into so many strange and potentially damaging components.

Hence you would rather use more stable animal oils like fat or oil from process that aren't so extreme like olive oil, avocado oil, coconut oil etc.

Calling them vegetable oils is a misnomer to help sell them. I bet just like in the original article, and just like transfats, it will come to light that these mass selling "vegetable" oils are also damaging. It took 90 years for them to admit transfats were bad and now replaced animal fats with vegetables oils.

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Re:50 Years Ago, the Sugar Industry Paid Scientists to Blame... by ericd on Saturday January 19, 2019 @10:46PM (#18950870)

I don’t know, I don’t think most people classify them or nuts as vegetables, but I don’t know whether they are.

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Re:50 Years Ago, the Sugar Industry Paid Scientists to Blame... by inertiatic on Saturday January 19, 2019 @08:31AM (#18946945)

>One can still be healthy eating no vegetables and just meat.

Haha wow. Citation absolutely needed.

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Re:50 Years Ago, the Sugar Industry Paid Scientists to Blame... by dalore on Monday January 21, 2019 @10:18AM (#18960896)

Big community on reddit about it https://www.reddit.com/r/zerocarb

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Re:50 Years Ago, the Sugar Industry Paid Scientists to Blame... by gumbi_nz on Saturday January 19, 2019 @02:53PM (#18948835)

zerocarb

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