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Re:San Diego’s Smart Streetlights Yield a Firehose of Data by gumby on Thursday January 17, 2019 @12:59PM (#18932899)
That's hard to do in California (for good reason): for speed limits under 65 (and outside school zones) there's a presumption that drivers know what they're doing.

So the speed limit may be 25 but if the prevailing traffic indicates that everyone thinks 40 is OK then you can't get ticketed for keeping up with traffic.

I see this issue come up all the time in Palo Alto where I live: people want the speed limit enforced on, say, Embarcadero Rd, but if the the city were to do so they'd have to do a traffic survey which would actually tell them to raise the limit on the signs.

There was a wave of sensible lawmaking in California that was sadly abandoned in the Wilson+ era and has never come back.

+ I don't mean Wilson was the cause, though he was a bad one; he got elected in part because people forgot about being sensible in the regard.

Re:San Diego’s Smart Streetlights Yield a Firehose of Data by trhway on Thursday January 17, 2019 @01:42PM (#18933275)
>So the speed limit may be 25 but if the prevailing traffic indicates that everyone thinks 40 is OK then you can't get ticketed for keeping up with traffic.

oh! that probably explains why i never in the almost 20 years here got tickets in such a situation, and i thought that i'm just good at spotting police cars (and slamming on the brakes each time i see a one) - here they are much easier to spot because they don't hide cheetah style in roadside bush like the traffic policemen do back in Russia.

Re:San Diego’s Smart Streetlights Yield a Firehose of Data by gumby on Thursday January 17, 2019 @02:23PM (#18933718)
Also in Cal they can't use radar unless they've recently done one of those surveys and set the radar speed threshold based on the criteria I mentioned. And they have to post a sign warning you of radar use. Of course there's no rule saying they have to remove those signs once the survey has expired (3 years I think...) so those radar in use warnings are all over the place and you can't tell which are actually true :-(

Also in California "speed traps" are illegal: this is when a highway runs through a town or district and the district puts up a sudden "25 MPH" sign so they can catch out of towners and charge them money.

Re:San Diego’s Smart Streetlights Yield a Firehose of Data by hopler on Friday January 18, 2019 @07:35AM (#18938847)
That's wild. They could fix the roads to calm traffic, such as add more lights and bumps.
Re:San Diego’s Smart Streetlights Yield a Firehose of Data by gumby on Saturday January 19, 2019 @04:02PM (#18949146)
They do, though it's hard to put a bump on an arterial road.

Adding too many lights and stop signs speeds traffic up rather than slowing it. Fortunately Cal. seems still (mostly) to hew to the "listen popular opinions to decide what to focus on; listen to actual domain experts to decide what action to take".