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Re:Zillow CEO: startups trying to disrupt real estate commis... by JamesBarney on Thursday January 17, 2019 @03:10AM (#18929186)
> a truly competitive market would probably put the commission in the 1-2% range.

This depends a lot on the price of the house. Selling a million dollar home isn't 10 times more work than selling a $100,000 condo.

Re:Zillow CEO: startups trying to disrupt real estate commis... by a_imho on Thursday January 17, 2019 @03:20AM (#18929223)
And handling a money transaction is mostly orthogonal to the amount yet many (most?) are charged as base fee + percentages.
Re:Zillow CEO: startups trying to disrupt real estate commis... by JamesBarney on Thursday January 17, 2019 @12:35PM (#18932700)
But that's not really a competitive market either.
Re:Zillow CEO: startups trying to disrupt real estate commis... by conanbatt on Thursday January 17, 2019 @11:49AM (#18932271)
Yes it is. Becuase the hard part is not selling it, its getting the listing. And you bet your ass that a the 10 million dollar home goes to the well dressed, swanky offices top ads agent, not your "aunt's best friend".
Re:Zillow CEO: startups trying to disrupt real estate commis... by JamesBarney on Thursday January 17, 2019 @12:34PM (#18932695)
You took my word "selling" replaced with "customer acquisition" then argued I was wrong.

You're right, that the majority of the work of a 10 million dollar house is customer acquisition. And this isn't true of a 100k condo.

But this was my point, 3% of a 100k home is close to the competitive market price. But 3% of a 10 million dollar home is pretty far away from the competitive market price.

Re:Zillow CEO: startups trying to disrupt real estate commis... by conanbatt on Thursday January 17, 2019 @02:38PM (#18933837)
I'll try to rephrase it:

100x the comission might have 100x the competition. As a seller of the house, you pay more but you also get better agents.

Re:Zillow CEO: startups trying to disrupt real estate commis... by JamesBarney on Thursday January 17, 2019 @02:50PM (#18933952)
You're not getting a 100x better agent, and most of the best i.e. most successful agents I've seen weren't necessarily better negotiators, better at contracts, or more responsive. They were specifically better @ marketing and selling themselves.

The most successful agents I know close houses twice as fast as other agents. But they close them twice as fast as other agents because they're listing them under market value.

My wife was a real estate agent for 5 years but she got out of it because all of the most successful agents she met were more successful in ways that hurt the client not helped them.

Examples - convincing their clients to settle for homes quickly, convincing clients to list their house less than market value, weeding out easy clients.

Re:Zillow CEO: startups trying to disrupt real estate commis... by conanbatt on Thursday January 17, 2019 @03:08PM (#18934113)
My wife is also in the real estate market: the reality is that people's incentives are not maximized on house value, they also care about other things , like safety, patient, attention, etc.

It is what it is. RE is not a perfect market because goods really cant be commoditized.

I reiterate my point with one more argument: the average income of a realtor is very low: they make very little money. The number of active realtors is almost perfectly correlated with house prices: that means a highly competitive , and thus relatively efficient, system.