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Re:I automated all of my social media by bluetidepro on Wednesday January 16, 2019 @04:57PM (#18925842)
> Let’s be honest - the main downside to automating social media is less audience engagement (likes, comments, etc).

This is the first point under the "There are some downsides to automating" section. I think that's the most important thing to read and realize whether you should even continue to read or not.

If social isn't a marketing strategy your startup is using at all, yeah, do this. It doesn't really matter too much then. But if you're actually trying to use social for any value, doing this is a terrible idea, in my opinion. The author/OP phrases it as this is all a good idea if social isn't your main marketing/acquisition channel, but I think this is still a bad idea if social is even your secondary or tertiary marketing/acquisition channel. Your engagement will tank on social, and people will be able to smell it a mile away if your social is worth engaging with or not. It's quite easy to tell if stuff like this is automated or not. I feel like the OP downplays that too much.

With that said, you do you, and decide what works best for your company. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ This is still a useful post if you put what I mentioned above aside, and decide to do this for your social strategy.

Re:I automated all of my social media by patwalls on Wednesday January 16, 2019 @05:04PM (#18925920)
OP here.

Yeah I agree, maybe I should have said if it's not in your "Top 3"

I think it also depends on your resources. If you're a solo founder then it can be hard to justify much time on social media.

And I also think you can have both. You can automate some posts, and also do ad hoc stuff. In my use case I publish articles on a consistent basis, why not automate the social media side of that?

Re:I automated all of my social media by bluetidepro on Wednesday January 16, 2019 @05:12PM (#18925983)
That’s a good point! I def agree it can be a good strategy to do both - automate some and still do manual work. That’s a win-win to break it up!
Re:I automated all of my social media by ganeshkrishnan on Wednesday January 16, 2019 @11:43PM (#18928435)
Doesn't have to be less engagement as long as it's very human like. I went overboard and used tensorflow to guess content of images on other people and leave comments, post stuff, generate comments text via NLP and as long as I used unofficial channels (eg via Javascript using PhantomJS) I had really good interaction.

I got >100k genuine users in my facebook group, 10k users on instagram etc and now I have stopped automation on both as the genuine user interaction suffices for growth.

Got API privileges revoked by twitter and the moral of the story if you have to be a 'crook', go all in ;)

ps: my first version of the project is here: https://github.com/ganeshkrishnan1/socialmediabot

Now I use scala, tensorflow and stanford NLP

Re:I automated all of my social media by babyArte on Thursday January 17, 2019 @02:21AM (#18929006)
Sometimes is really wrong but being what it is i can see this working the pictures and the tagging , such and evil genius of spamming lol! I actually had to star you and follow you on facebook just to see if people reshare that spam
Re:I automated all of my social media by flocial on Wednesday January 16, 2019 @09:11PM (#18927697)
The other hidden cost of automation that feeds into less engagement is that some social media will put a damper on automated/bot accounts based on internal criteria for organic engagement. Also, automation isn't a binary choice. You can lessen the frequency of automation and mix in organic content.
Re:I automated all of my social media by arbol on Wednesday January 16, 2019 @03:52PM (#18925040)
I automated my social media by deleting all of my accounts
Re:I automated all of my social media by thrownblown on Wednesday January 16, 2019 @05:34PM (#18926175)
Deleted code is debugged code.
Re:I automated all of my social media by vertexFarm on Wednesday January 16, 2019 @06:32PM (#18926699)
This sentence gave me a miniature zen moment. It's gone now, though.
Re:I automated all of my social media by madacoo on Wednesday January 16, 2019 @09:37PM (#18927815)
To become Zen you must first delete Zen.
Re:I automated all of my social media by naavis on Wednesday January 16, 2019 @04:01PM (#18925173)
As the article says:

> Note - this post is about automating my business social media accounts. I think automating stuff on your personal accounts or using bots is bad.

Re:I automated all of my social media by georgeecollins on Wednesday January 16, 2019 @06:16PM (#18926545)
Perfect, bots talking to bots. Now if we can only automate being influenced by ads the whole system will work perfectly with zero effort.
Re:I automated all of my social media by TACIXAT on Wednesday January 16, 2019 @06:26PM (#18926644)
With this quick hack I drained my bank account! I set up an Instagram bot to browser for 30 minutes a day. It had a 2% chance to click any of the ads I saw. This aggregated URLs of products I wanted. To simulate bad late night purchase I set a Chrome headless instance to crawl these page at 11pm each night. This had all my form-saved information. To model drop off from bad UI, it would recursively auto fill the forms and try to proceed through the purchase, this gave me about a 70% drop off rate once in the checkout process.

(Just to be clear I didn't actually do any of this.)

Re:I automated all of my social media by georgeecollins on Wednesday January 16, 2019 @07:41PM (#18927258)
What if we made a version of product search that sorted results by the number of times your reading bot saw the product advertised in your social feed (from bots). The entire social media enterprise could be supported with zero human effort.
Re:I automated all of my social media by netsharc on Wednesday January 16, 2019 @06:49PM (#18926844)
I had a shower thought once that between the time all humans died and the Internet goes down (all that infrastructure still need human maintenance), Twitter would be just filled with bots posting their spam under the top trending hashtags, creating feedback loops as the system sees other hashtags the bots use and push them up as trending.

And the last machine that'll be running will probably be a machine desperately trying to talk to a payment API because it needs to bill their long dead client after some other algorithm overspent the client's ad budget...

Re:I automated all of my social media by castratikron on Wednesday January 16, 2019 @07:10PM (#18927025)
You should check out the short story "There Will Come Soft Rains" by Ray Bradbury
Re:I automated all of my social media by vibrolax on Thursday January 17, 2019 @10:05AM (#18931227)
My favorite chapter in "The Martian Chronicles". I will never forget it.
Re:I automated all of my social media by ghostbrainalpha on Wednesday January 16, 2019 @04:10PM (#18925293)
It's cool, but having broken icon image links gives away that its automated too much.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dvcbv4ZXcAAAEJR.png

Also maybe add some more variation to the posts so that it looks human. When you pick a random article, and then stick a random block quote from the article on a picture... maybe just post your random quote as text and forget the picture every once in a while. Just to break up the visual rhythm.

Also throw in a retweet from a list of accounts you like every once in a while.

Edit: And last thing... really. Real humans rant. We get stuck on idea and make several posts on the same subject in a row.

You can easily schedule a years worth of ranting in a couple hours with a tool like buffer. Just post 3 things about the Steve Jobs biography in a row like you just now got around to reading it.

Re:I automated all of my social media by simplecomplex on Wednesday January 16, 2019 @04:02PM (#18925183)
Everyone should do this with their personal content too. Post to your own website and syndicate elsewhere. That way you maintain ownership of your content and audience, and people don’t need to use Twitter/FB to follow you.
Re:I automated all of my social media by unicornporn on Thursday January 17, 2019 @02:03AM (#18928932)
POSSE, as they call it.

https://indieweb.org/POSSE

Re:I automated all of my social media by thestepafter on Wednesday January 16, 2019 @04:02PM (#18925188)
This an absolutely fantastic post, thank you for writing this. Start Story is also awesome, keep up the good work!
Re:I automated all of my social media by deytempo on Wednesday January 16, 2019 @07:32PM (#18927206)
Isn’t that like automating your cocaine addiction?
Re:I automated all of my social media by rak00n on Wednesday January 16, 2019 @04:59PM (#18925865)
Wait, no source code?
Re:I automated all of my social media by mohamedmansour on Thursday January 17, 2019 @04:29AM (#18929486)
TLDR; “Used bufferapp API to post all social networks