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Re:Consumption of a dark roast coffee blend reduces DNA dama... by Myrmornis on Wednesday January 16, 2019 @12:07AM (#18918382)
I work for a biotech company that publishes peer-reviewed science. We use scientific publishing for marketing purposes, to influence the regulatory environment in our favor, and to look better than our competitors. Some of it is done to a very high standard. But in general, doing science with such predefined strategic objectives results in a corpus of scientific output that is hard to interpret. Essentially this sort of stuff pollutes the scientific literature and we should be ashamed that as a society we can't even let the technical content of the scientific literature be free from corporate interests.
Re:Consumption of a dark roast coffee blend reduces DNA dama... by semi-extrinsic on Wednesday January 16, 2019 @05:48AM (#18919751)
I think in the current research climate, you can replace "biotech company" with "university department" and most of your statements still hold true.

Many purely academic studies are done with predefined strategic objectives of advancing one's own prestige, only publishing positive results that fit "your narrative", and indeed polluting the literature with results that are at best incremental improvements, at worst regressions made up to look like improvements.

Re:Consumption of a dark roast coffee blend reduces DNA dama... by circlefavshape on Wednesday January 16, 2019 @04:58AM (#18919542)
Are you directly involved in this? If so - how do you justify it to yourself?

(if not then ignore the question - I'm just curious about the mindset of people who do ethically-questionable work)

Re:Consumption of a dark roast coffee blend reduces DNA dama... by skookumchuck on Wednesday January 16, 2019 @04:39AM (#18919436)
> free from corporate interests

That won't help. All research is subject to the bias of the researchers. For example, many researchers have been caught fabricating results so they'll get famous. And just because someone is being funded by the government hardly means the government doesn't have a biased interest in the result. Everyone running the government has an agenda that isn't exactly altruistic.

Re:Consumption of a dark roast coffee blend reduces DNA dama... by hnnh44 on Wednesday January 16, 2019 @05:03AM (#18919561)
This is funny.

Just a while back there was an article posted about how studies SHOULD start out with defined objectives. The argument was that academics are so desperate to publish positive results that they'll draw any positive conclusion, even if it wasn't what the study started out trying to accomplish.

Re:Consumption of a dark roast coffee blend reduces DNA dama... by tome on Wednesday January 16, 2019 @06:20AM (#18919887)
Indeed. What you are describing is p-hacking

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Data_dredging

Re:Consumption of a dark roast coffee blend reduces DNA dama... by hnnh44 on Wednesday January 16, 2019 @08:33AM (#18920649)
Thank you! I didn't know there was a term for it.
Re:Consumption of a dark roast coffee blend reduces DNA dama... by godelmachine on Wednesday January 16, 2019 @06:03AM (#18919823)
Second that