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Re:Ideology Impairs Sound Reasoning by collyw on Tuesday January 15, 2019 @03:43AM (#18909694)
It seems quite concerning then, that most political parties are ideologically driven. I would really like to see a political party focused on evidence based politics.
Re:Ideology Impairs Sound Reasoning by barry-cotter on Tuesday January 15, 2019 @03:47AM (#18909714)
Politics isn’t mostly about values or beliefs, it’s mostly about winning, beating the other side. Insofar as it is about either we have a proposal to make values explicit and to incentivise teaching the goals that serve those values.

http://mason.gmu.edu/~rhanson/futarchy.html

> Futarchy: Vote Values, But Bet Beliefs

> by Robin Hanson

> This short "manifesto" describes a new form of government. In "futarchy," we would vote on values, but bet on beliefs. Elected representatives would formally define and manage an after-the-fact measurement of national welfare, while market speculators would say which policies they expect to raise national welfare. Democracy seems better than autocracy (i.e., kings and dictators), but it still has problems. There are today vast differences in wealth among nations, and we can not attribute most of these differences to either natural resources or human abilities. Instead, much of the difference seems to be that the poor nations (many of which are democracies) are those that more often adopted dumb policies, policies which hurt most everyone in the nation. And even rich nations frequently adopt such policies. These policies are not just dumb in retrospect; typically there were people who understood a lot about such policies and who had good reasons to disapprove of them beforehand. It seems hard to imagine such policies being adopted nearly as often if everyone knew what such "experts" knew about their consequences. Thus familiar forms of government seem to frequently fail by ignoring the advice of relevant experts (i.e., people who know relevant things).

Re:Ideology Impairs Sound Reasoning by collyw on Tuesday January 15, 2019 @03:48AM (#18909719)
That's true, which is probably worse than being ideology driven when I think about it.
Re:Ideology Impairs Sound Reasoning by eeZah7Ux on Tuesday January 15, 2019 @06:39AM (#18910446)
There's a typical moral dilemma involved - the political "trolley problem":

Suppose you are leading a party that has an effective plan to address a lot of preventable deaths.

If you lose, many people won't be saved.

If you bend your values and engage in manipulating public opinion, making empty promises, lying and so on you are much more likely to win.

What would you do?