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Re:Feds Can't Force You to Unlock Your iPhone with Finger or... by b1r6 on Monday January 14, 2019 @08:08PM (#18908082)
However, that's a unique case, because the authorities know the hashes of the cleartext files on his machine match the hashes of illicit media. "Foregone conclusion" so long as you believe in the mathematics behind hash collisions.
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Re:Feds Can't Force You to Unlock Your iPhone with Finger or... by 77pt77 on Monday January 14, 2019 @09:00PM (#18908302)
How can they possibly know that?

If that is the case then there should be no problem convicting him.

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Re:Feds Can't Force You to Unlock Your iPhone with Finger or... by sandworm101 on Monday January 14, 2019 @11:02PM (#18908777)
They had access to the drive at one point.

In a filesharing seneario it is common for feds to see what you got before the raid that grabs the physical drive.

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Re:Feds Can't Force You to Unlock Your iPhone with Finger or... by lagadu on Tuesday January 15, 2019 @06:55AM (#18910522)
Either what they have is enough for a conviction or it's not. If it is, then there's no need to actually get access to it, if it's not then it might as well not exist.
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Re:Feds Can't Force You to Unlock Your iPhone with Finger or... by KingMachiavelli on Monday January 14, 2019 @11:35PM (#18908887)
In the file sharing scenario, how would the feds know that the encrypted drive actually has the files? They can only know what they suspect is on the drive.
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Re:Feds Can't Force You to Unlock Your iPhone with Finger or... by sandworm101 on Tuesday January 15, 2019 @12:32AM (#18909051)
It isnt about absolutes. They can be reasonably certain that the drive was in use on a network.
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Re:Feds Can't Force You to Unlock Your iPhone with Finger or... by justadudeama on Monday January 14, 2019 @10:51PM (#18908733)
I don’t understand this. Are the hash values stored somewhere unencrypted?
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