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Re:Feds Can't Force You to Unlock Your iPhone with Finger or... by chii on Monday January 14, 2019 @05:12PM (#18907034)
If the police can force you to unlock a safe, they should also be allowed to force you to unlock a phone.

But, unlocking a phone should come with a lot of paper work and checks and balances to ensure that it's done only when really required?

Re:Feds Can't Force You to Unlock Your iPhone with Finger or... by manfredo on Monday January 14, 2019 @05:30PM (#18907146)
My understanding is that if you are in possession of a key to a safe then law enforcement or the court can compel you to produce the key. But if the safe has a combination, then the court cannot make you give up the combination as that may be self incriminating. Not to mention the practical aspects of trying to compel someone to give up a secret. What if they claim to have forgotten the combination? What if they actually _did_ forget?

I imagine the situation with electronics will be similar. If a key to, say, an encrypted volume is stored on a flash drive then they may compel someone to produce it (analogous to a safe key). But if the drive is protected by a password, then the government cannot compel someone to provide the secret.

Re:Feds Can't Force You to Unlock Your iPhone with Finger or... by dahfizz on Monday January 14, 2019 @05:48PM (#18907300)
I think that's why the article mentions finger prints and faceid. Those are the 'keys' to your phone.