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Re:Apple's famous walled garden is starting to show cracks by llampx on Sunday January 13, 2019 @05:40PM (#18899176)
Take the iPod Shuffle then. It came out 2 years before the Zen Stone and defined the tiny, no-screen market. Even today you can buy knockoffs at Primark for cheap.
Re:Apple's famous walled garden is starting to show cracks by thaumasiotes on Monday January 14, 2019 @01:13PM (#18904978)
I think the Shuffle is a great form factor.

The Stone did have one other significant advantage -- from my computer's perspective, it was just a flash drive. I believe iPods really, really want you to interact with them using iTunes.