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Re:Ask HN: Is it just me or is the AMP project making everyt... by jimbo1qaz on Saturday January 12, 2019 @07:41PM (#18894220)
News sites are hypertext, also known as formatted text, and not web-apps or programs which download and render websites. I expect news sites to load properly in the absence of the AMP CDN (not "half the methods"), not deliberately hide content from users. (I feel the same way about blocking page rendering when web-fonts don't download when their http connections hang instead.)

EDIT: I just moved to desktop. If I block all scripts in uMatrix, OP's URL loads immediately (albeit with a full page of garbage above page content). If I block external scripts in uMatrix, I have to wait 8 seconds before anything appears.

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Re:Ask HN: Is it just me or is the AMP project making everyt... by SquareWheel on Saturday January 12, 2019 @07:55PM (#18894283)
>News sites are hypertext, also known as formatted text, and not web-apps or programs which download and render websites.

No, there are many thousands of websites that render their content dynamically on the client - news or otherwise. Facebook, Twitter, and Reddit all make use of client-side rendering (and all provide news services).

>not deliberately hide content from users

Your browser also "deliberately hides content". It waits a few hundred milliseconds before triggering a paint, just to avoid content from jumping around. AMP pages do the same -- unless you break the mechanism of course.

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Re:Ask HN: Is it just me or is the AMP project making everyt... by monadgonad on Saturday January 12, 2019 @10:35PM (#18894883)
> Facebook, Twitter, and Reddit all make use of client-side rendering (and all provide news services)

Oh, come on. You and I both know that those are social media apps which act as news aggregators, and are not themselves sources of textual news articles. jimbo1qaz was clearly talking about the latter.

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Re:Ask HN: Is it just me or is the AMP project making everyt... by SquareWheel on Saturday January 12, 2019 @10:49PM (#18894932)
What is the meaningful distinction between news websites and non-news websites? Client-side rendering is just a technique which isn't specific to any industry.
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