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Re:SpaceX to lay off 10% of Workforce by kgwgk on Saturday January 12, 2019 @05:49AM (#18890664)
Employees can also leave at anytime for arbitrary reasons.
Re:SpaceX to lay off 10% of Workforce by johnchristopher on Saturday January 12, 2019 @01:59PM (#18892684)
Employees rarely leave for "arbitrary" reasons.
Re:SpaceX to lay off 10% of Workforce by SerialOwl on Saturday January 12, 2019 @03:21PM (#18893068)
When I left my previous employer, the reason was absolutely arbitrary. The new one paid more. I didn't have to wait for the old company to not pay me the agreed upon salary, spend months offering them a "compensation improvement plan", and documenting their failure to follow it in fear that they might sue me for leaving for the "wrong" reason. It's amazing how people pretend at-will employment is somehow equal for both sides when only employees can actually terminate the employment at-will.
Re:SpaceX to lay off 10% of Workforce by johnchristopher on Saturday January 12, 2019 @04:25PM (#18893365)
> When I left my previous employer, the reason was absolutely arbitrary. The new one paid more.

That is literally the inverse of what arbitrary means:

existing or coming about seemingly at random or by chance or as a capricious and unreasonable act of will

Now:

> I didn't have to wait for the old company to not pay me the agreed upon salary, spend months offering them a "compensation improvement plan", and documenting their failure to follow it in fear that they might sue me for leaving for the "wrong" reason. It's amazing how people pretend at-will employment is somehow equal for both sides when only employees can actually terminate the employment at-will.

Where I live you have (it's the law) to keep on working (and being paid for that work) for a certain number of weeks (depending on how long you have been working at that company). So the company can find a replacement, so you can wrap up things and pave the way for the transition. It's not rare that you can come up with an agreement that let you do that from home (because you are leaving on bad terms) or that the employee takes his vacant days or extra hours to fill up that period.

Re:SpaceX to lay off 10% of Workforce by kgwgk on Saturday January 12, 2019 @06:05PM (#18893835)
b : based on or determined by individual preference or convenience rather than by necessity or the intrinsic nature of something
Re:SpaceX to lay off 10% of Workforce by johnchristopher on Sunday January 13, 2019 @03:40AM (#18895783)
I say "leaving previous employer because the new one paid more" is not an individual preference or convenient but the intrinsic nature of the decision. Maybe even motivated by necessity if more money was needed.

It's not like he chose the new company because the logo is red.

Re:SpaceX to lay off 10% of Workforce by kgwgk on Sunday January 13, 2019 @05:04AM (#18895994)
Employers rarely fire people for arbitrary reasons, then.
Re:SpaceX to lay off 10% of Workforce by johnchristopher on Sunday January 13, 2019 @05:58AM (#18896150)
If by arbitrary reasons you mean a not random reason like "they cost too much" then they do it all the time.
Re:SpaceX to lay off 10% of Workforce by kgwgk on Sunday January 13, 2019 @07:03AM (#18896339)
I'm sorry, I don't understand.

Do you think that "they cost too much" is an "arbitrary" reason? Or is it the "intrinsic nature of the decision" like in the "I leave because they pay me more elsewehere" case?