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Re:Re-decentralizing the Web, for good this time by rubenverborgh on Friday January 11, 2019 @04:45PM (#18887454)
How does running analytics on my site impair my ability to talk about what Tim Berners-Lee wants to do for freedom and control? ;-)

Yes, I track how popular what content is on my site. Motivates me to write more. Please feel free to block trackers; I do that as well.

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Re:Re-decentralizing the Web, for good this time by amiga-workbench on Friday January 11, 2019 @05:41PM (#18887892)
Have you considered Piwik or a similar self hosted analytics solution?

I don't care if people run Analytics, its just when they go sharing all that data with a third party that it gets troubling.

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Re:Re-decentralizing the Web, for good this time by rubenverborgh on Friday January 11, 2019 @07:28PM (#18888555)
Yes, I urgently need to migrate; same with Disqus, needs to become Solid.
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Re:Re-decentralizing the Web, for good this time by rapnie on Saturday January 12, 2019 @11:02AM (#18891722)
PS. It is called Matomo now and at https://matomo.org
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Re:Re-decentralizing the Web, for good this time by diminoten on Friday January 11, 2019 @06:43PM (#18888320)
It undermines your argument, is what it does.

You can talk about it all you want, but as long as you continue to participate in the very thing you rail against, you're going to struggle to be taken seriously.

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Re:Re-decentralizing the Web, for good this time by nothrabannosir on Friday January 11, 2019 @08:35PM (#18888902)
People who participate in something are often best positioned to criticise it, because they:

A) know how the sausage is made, and

B) stand to actually lose something if people believe them, i.e. they are standing by their point in spite of the negative consequences to themselves.

People on the dole who argue against (details / implementation of) social security should be taken seriously. Rich people arguing against tax breaks for the wealthy. Programmers against big tech firms. Etc.

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Re:Re-decentralizing the Web, for good this time by diminoten on Saturday January 12, 2019 @12:43AM (#18889900)
So only murderers should judge other murderers?

Hmm.

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Re:Re-decentralizing the Web, for good this time by kkarakk on Saturday January 12, 2019 @03:13AM (#18890271)
technically the whole criminal judicial system is a licensed murderer
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Re:Re-decentralizing the Web, for good this time by rubenverborgh on Friday January 11, 2019 @07:26PM (#18888546)
That's not at all how argumentation works :-)

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18886753

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Re:Re-decentralizing the Web, for good this time by arendtio on Sunday January 13, 2019 @03:08AM (#18895687)
'Actions speak louder than words.' ;-)
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Re:Re-decentralizing the Web, for good this time by diminoten on Friday January 11, 2019 @10:02PM (#18889313)
That's exactly how argumentation works...
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Re:Re-decentralizing the Web, for good this time by rubenverborgh on Friday January 11, 2019 @10:29PM (#18889421)
You’re confusing argumentation with perception.
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