Microsoft Bing not only shows child pornography, it suggests it

Re:Microsoft Bing not only shows child pornography, it sugge... by openasocket on Thursday January 10, 2019 @03:00PM (#18877486)

There's also some nice secondary effects of criminalizing possession of child pornography. What little evidence we have about pedophiles suggests that the majority of consumers of child porn have also sexually abused children personally. And, while child sexual abuse tends to go un-reported and can be difficult to prove in court (usually the child is the only witness, limited physical evidence, etc.) possession of child porn is much easier to get a conviction on. So not only is criminalization stemming the production of child porn, it is helping to find and convict sexual abusers.

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Re:Microsoft Bing not only shows child pornography, it sugge... by Junk_Collector on Thursday January 10, 2019 @05:35PM (#18879038)

I would argue that this is a bias introduced by the legal and societal regime surround child pornography. We only have statistics for those that have been caught and the prosecution also has an incentive to make the charges as extreme as possible.

Also, hopefully, the police are going heavily after producers and achieving high conviction rates which would give that statistical trend.

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Re:Microsoft Bing not only shows child pornography, it sugge... by DanBC on Thursday January 10, 2019 @04:42PM (#18878521)

> What little evidence we have about pedophiles suggests that the majority of consumers of child porn have also sexually abused children personally.

That's not true at all.

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Re:Microsoft Bing not only shows child pornography, it sugge... by openasocket on Thursday January 10, 2019 @06:04PM (#18879328)

I over-stated the evidence. I was thinking of a study claiming 85% of felons convicted of child porn possession also admitted to also committing child sexual abuse in anonymous reporting. But it seems there's a lot of controversy around that study: https://www.nytimes.com/2007/07/19/us/19sex.html .

That said, my understanding is the evidence does seem to indicate a correlation between the two, though in the 30-40% range. See https://web.archive.org/web/20080111204617/http://www.ndaa.o... for example. Not a majority, but still significant. And, of course, this sample is just people who were convicted of possession, not all people who ever viewed such material, so I'd have to qualify my statement to "convicted consumers of child porn"

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Re:Microsoft Bing not only shows child pornography, it sugge... by DanBC on Friday January 11, 2019 @04:39AM (#18882082)

I agree with this post. Lots of people viewing images of child sexual abuse will go on to commit a contact offence (or already have committed a contact offence).

But there are plenty of people who won't go on to commit a contact offence.

This is a problem for law enforcement because they need to monitor all people who've viewed images of child sexual abuse in order to stop them committing contact offences, and this second group inflates the numbers. Maybe it's only 20% more, but maybe it more than doubles the numbers.

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