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Re:System Down: A systemd-journald exploit by arianvanp on Thursday January 10, 2019 @10:15AM (#18874373)
Interesting choice you have there. Systemd is heavily influenced by launchd, the service manager that makes MacOS tick. They're very similar in design. IPC based, socket-activated, property-based, dependencies, parallel startup, unifying init and service management...

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Launchd

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Re:System Down: A systemd-journald exploit by tinus_hn on Thursday January 10, 2019 @10:57AM (#18874748)
Launchd is not a syslog audio daemon dhcp client. It just launches things.
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Re:System Down: A systemd-journald exploit by diffeomorphism on Thursday January 10, 2019 @11:17AM (#18874926)
Neither is systemd.

Were you thinking of journald,... etc. instead?

http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/the-biggest-myths.html

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Re:System Down: A systemd-journald exploit by tinus_hn on Thursday January 10, 2019 @02:26PM (#18877142)
> ...you can turn off and replace pretty much any part of systemd, with very few exceptions. And those exceptions (such as journald)...

I’m not sure what your link is supposed to prove.

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Re:System Down: A systemd-journald exploit by TimWolla on Thursday January 10, 2019 @11:20AM (#18874963)
systemd is not a syslog daemon either. systemd-journald is.
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Re:System Down: A systemd-journald exploit by yarrel on Thursday January 10, 2019 @01:29PM (#18876485)
It's funny that two entirely unrelated pieces of software written by separate projects have such similar names.

One of them should really change to avoid this unfortunate confusion.

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Re:System Down: A systemd-journald exploit by patrickg_zill on Thursday January 10, 2019 @10:36AM (#18874552)
Windows GUI is heavily influenced by Mac, so it also must be as good as the Mac version, right?
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Re:System Down: A systemd-journald exploit by arianvanp on Thursday January 10, 2019 @10:53AM (#18874704)
As in. Launchd is directly mentioned in the design documents of systemd as the main source of inspiration

http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/systemd.html

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Re:System Down: A systemd-journald exploit by patrickg_zill on Thursday January 10, 2019 @11:44AM (#18875259)
Yes, that doesn't contradict my point.

Systemd is a much worse implementation of a Launchd concept, just as Windows is a worse implementation of a Mac like GUI concept...

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Re:System Down: A systemd-journald exploit by na85 on Thursday January 10, 2019 @05:47PM (#18879147)
My complaint isn't with the design. My complaint is with the piss-poor implementation.
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