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Re:Is ARM Hungry Enough to Eat Intel's Favorite Pie? by imtringued on Wednesday January 09, 2019 @10:53AM (#18865640)
I remember when Microsoft announced Windows on Arm 2 years ago. Now in 2019 they still haven't delivered. I couldn't care less about performance because there are no ARM products on the market that are actually interesting to early adopters. Even if we take alternative routes that weren't intended for mainstream customers, for example arm SBCs. After 2 years literally only the RK3399 SoC which was basically intended for chromebooks anyway, so ARM contributed 0% to it's success, has actually offered extremely basic features like PCIe. But thanks to the raspberry pi monoculture nobody is working on things like GPU drivers or better software support for SBCs anyway. Your crappy A11X or whatever with nice artifcal benchmark scores doesn't interest me. It's a shut in that can't communicate with the outside world and barely competes with an obsolete i5 3540 from 2012.

There is a reason nothing happens and it's because most companies don't care about ARM in the server space at all (including ARM themselves), they only want to use it to negotiate better discounts with intel. So far Google is the only company that has ARM based computers.

Re:Is ARM Hungry Enough to Eat Intel's Favorite Pie? by saagarjha on Wednesday January 09, 2019 @08:26PM (#18870740)
> A11X or whatever with nice artifcal benchmark scores doesn't interest me. It's a shut in that can't communicate with the outside world and barely competes with an obsolete i5 3540 from 2012.

A12X (there is no A11X) is only "shut in" because it runs iOS. Other than that, it's similar in power to the chips in MacBooks.

Re:Is ARM Hungry Enough to Eat Intel's Favorite Pie? by ken on Thursday January 10, 2019 @01:53AM (#18872035)
That's a pretty big shut-in. Unless you're going to run a server farm full of iPads, it's useless to anyone outside of Apple.
Re:Is ARM Hungry Enough to Eat Intel's Favorite Pie? by saagarjha on Thursday January 10, 2019 @03:05AM (#18872305)
The chips in iPads are thermally constrained, so they would not do well in continuous loads. But if Apple were to ship an ARM Mac with a good TDP, this might change.
Re:Is ARM Hungry Enough to Eat Intel's Favorite Pie? by pcr0 on Wednesday January 09, 2019 @08:10PM (#18870663)
AWS just launched ARM-based servers
Re:Is ARM Hungry Enough to Eat Intel's Favorite Pie? by mntmn on Wednesday January 09, 2019 @08:27PM (#18870742)
i.MX6 has had PCIe, SATA for a pretty long time now, as had Layerscape. And there are others like Socionext (datasheet under NDA though). Etnaviv is a very successful open source driver for Vivante GPUs found in a bunch of SoCs.
Re:Is ARM Hungry Enough to Eat Intel's Favorite Pie? by hylianwarrior on Thursday January 10, 2019 @01:49AM (#18872027)
> because most companies don't care about ARM in the server space at all

It's starting. Cloudflare just announced this, and AWS is adding ARM-based server options. https://blog.cloudflare.com/porting-our-software-to-arm64/

Re:Is ARM Hungry Enough to Eat Intel's Favorite Pie? by Kipters on Thursday January 10, 2019 @06:09AM (#18873017)
Technically Windows on ARM was announced a bit over 8 years ago, before Windows 8's name was even known (it was still Windows vNext and had the Windows 7 shell when it was first shown publically running on Snapdragon boards)
Re:Is ARM Hungry Enough to Eat Intel's Favorite Pie? by skyde on Wednesday January 09, 2019 @04:12PM (#18868932)
Microsoft have arm based server as part of Azure also