No Tuition, but You Pay a Percentage of Your Income if You Find a Job

Re:No Tuition, but You Pay a Percentage of Your Income if Yo... by wolco on Tuesday January 08, 2019 @06:58PM (#18861029)

Wouldn't you delay a raise or try to remain below 51 until you can make over 71 to avoid getting paid less?

The system looks good on paper. It reminds me of a type of public housing offered that allows you to give 30% of gross wages. Many people stop working completely and get welfare/assistance (to qualify you need to be working or getting a regular cheque) or delay raises, etc because the less you make the less you pay. The more you make the more taxes you pay so it creates a situation where the harder you work the less you make unless you can get a huge pay increase and leave. It creates a trap.. there is a huge fear of leaving because you will never get back in.

I like the free if you qualify German model but even that has problems.

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Re:No Tuition, but You Pay a Percentage of Your Income if Yo... by atiredturte on Tuesday January 08, 2019 @07:21PM (#18861173)

I addressed this in another comment more fully. For this version though, consider that even though it might be possible to do such a thing, the vast majority does not. You could potentially be sneaky about this, but the effort would not be worth the small savings you would make.

The current HELP/HECS system doesn't just work on paper. It's been used successfully for a while.

Remember, we are about repayments starting at 2% at 50k AUD (35K USD) and going up to 8% at $107+ AUD (77k USD). This is not a crazy, crippling payment. It is not worth making substantially less in your job in order to save such (relatively) small sums.

Australia is not a welfare state. We rank 5th in economic freedom [1] (USA is at 18). While the nation does have many problems, I do believe that Australia performs decently at balancing a free market and government support. While we used to have completely free universities, I believe that the current loan program is a decent midpoint between the US and European systems.

[1] https://www.heritage.org/index/

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Re:No Tuition, but You Pay a Percentage of Your Income if Yo... by wolco on Tuesday January 08, 2019 @08:36PM (#18861564)

Economic freedom rank is a bit confusing. Comparing Canada to US the tax burden is listed at 65 for the US and 76 for Canada. Comparing income taxes, capital gains, local/provincial/state the US is much lower.

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Re:No Tuition, but You Pay a Percentage of Your Income if Yo... by scarejunba on Wednesday January 09, 2019 @01:00AM (#18862653)

It’s fairly comparable at around 200k USD (converted to equivalent CAD). Total tax in SF isn’t all that much lower in the US.

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