I learnt C++ in 2018 and have no regrets

Re:I learnt C++ in 2018 and have no regrets by wues on Monday January 07, 2019 @11:00AM (#18846221)

C compatibility was the very reason for which C++ is bigger, more complicated and less safe than a similar language not compatible with C could be.

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Re:I learnt C++ in 2018 and have no regrets by Const-me on Monday January 07, 2019 @02:07PM (#18848765)

Objective C and D both have excellent C compatibility. C# has very good one. I think all 3 languages are easier to use.

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Re:I learnt C++ in 2018 and have no regrets by wues on Monday January 07, 2019 @08:40PM (#18852243)

They all may have excellent C compatibility, but this is not the point. The point is that without C compatibility C++ could be smaller and simpler, and yet still meeting the same goals and covering the same use cases. Objective C has Smalltalkish object system glued to C base. Fundamental C++ techniques like RAII not possible there. D has GC. C# runs in a VM. I would not call a language with any of those features very similar to C++.

OTOH if not for C compatibility we would not have this discussion, since we would most likely never heard of C++.

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Re:I learnt C++ in 2018 and have no regrets by wbl on Monday January 07, 2019 @11:57AM (#18846935)

Really? C++ accidentally has a Turing complete templating layer. I suppose one could point to Common Lisp but if you think that is simple....

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Re:I learnt C++ in 2018 and have no regrets by TeMPOraL on Tuesday January 08, 2019 @02:10AM (#18853887)

Well, Common Lisp is simple. Except maybe the Metaobject Protocol (which ultimately didn't make it into standard, but it sort of still is). And except eval-when. Eval-when is magic.

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Re:I learnt C++ in 2018 and have no regrets by wues on Monday January 07, 2019 @08:42PM (#18852268)

I never said that this language would be simple. Just simpler than C++ we know.

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