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Re:Why Telegram is insecure (2015) by unicornporn on Sunday January 06, 2019 @07:57AM (#18838094)
> Why do all messengers keep requiring phone numbers?

Matrix/Riot.im and Wire doesn't. I think they're both good alternatives.

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Re:Why Telegram is insecure (2015) by theshrike79 on Sunday January 06, 2019 @08:14AM (#18838143)
Riot.im is a damn pain to set up. I've been using computers for a quarter of a decade and I still get flummoxed by the UX.

Bridging Matrix/Riot to IRC/Telegram/Whatever seems to require some black magick beyond my capabilities.

On the other hand, even my grandmother can (and has) set up Telegram and WhatsApp.

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Re:Why Telegram is insecure (2015) by frutiger on Sunday January 06, 2019 @08:35AM (#18838225)
> I've been using computers for a quarter of a decade

OT but I suppose you mean century?

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Re:Why Telegram is insecure (2015) by unicornporn on Sunday January 06, 2019 @08:26AM (#18838188)
Have you had a look lately? Plenty has happened in the last year (not only on the UX front)!

https://media.ccc.de/v/35c3-9400-matrix_the_current_status_a...

http://riot.im/experimental

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Re:Why Telegram is insecure (2015) by ekianjo on Sunday January 06, 2019 @08:11AM (#18838136)
Wire only if you register first on a computer. from the phone if you create an account you have to use your number.
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Re:Why Telegram is insecure (2015) by walterbell on Sunday January 06, 2019 @11:55AM (#18839195)
They seem to have changed this now, you can register with an email address from mobile. It still asks for a phone number, but you can say no.
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Re:Why Telegram is insecure (2015) by ekianjo on Monday January 07, 2019 @06:08AM (#18844316)
That has probably changed recently indeed.
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