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Re:Learning China’s Forbidden History, So They Can Censor It by andrepd on Saturday January 05, 2019 @11:46AM (#18832576)
That's the kind of relativisation that were this another medium and I would call it paid shilling.

You cannot with any seriousness compare the de-normalisation of certain opinions, as it happened in the US in the past few decades, with the systematic, brutal, ubiquitous repression and censorship happening in China right now. China is one of the most un-free countries on earth in nearly every measure. Claiming that, eh sure, it is one way to do things and in the west they fire you if you say you hate niggers, so this is two flavours of pretty much the same thing, claiming this is the kind of gaslighting and propaganda that regimes such as China and Russia are trying to push on the West.

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Re:Learning China’s Forbidden History, So They Can Censor It by paraditedc on Saturday January 05, 2019 @11:57AM (#18832669)
> China is one of the most un-free countries on earth in nearly every measure.

Sorry if it is too personal, but if you don't mind, I would like to know if you have actually visited China.

In my opinion, only people who have actual experience living in China are qualified to make such statements.

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Re:Learning China’s Forbidden History, So They Can Censor It by becege90 on Saturday January 05, 2019 @02:36PM (#18833716)
I have actually lived in China and can confirm that it is extremely unfree.

I went to a good school in Beijing, and after arriving in the US, I realized they were teaching us basically propaganda in our Chinese, History, and Poli Sci classes. They even managed to sneak propaganda into our chemistry class, it’s nuts!

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Re:Learning China’s Forbidden History, So They Can Censor It by paraditedc on Saturday January 05, 2019 @02:46PM (#18833772)
I agree that there's much propaganda in the textbook, but how was it related to "extremely unfree"?
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Re:Learning China’s Forbidden History, So They Can Censor It by thrwy_01 on Saturday January 05, 2019 @10:36PM (#18836407)
Could you please give us examples of propaganda in chemistry (or any other hard science) class?
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Re:Learning China’s Forbidden History, So They Can Censor It by andrepd on Saturday January 05, 2019 @03:15PM (#18833949)
I don't think you need to have lived in a place first-hand to comment on it. I don't need to have lived in Syria to comment on the situation there; I have read extensively about it and that will do.
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Re:Learning China’s Forbidden History, So They Can Censor It by justicezyx on Saturday January 05, 2019 @12:01PM (#18832697)
> with the systematic, brutal, ubiquitous repression and censorship happening in China right now

If what happened to pewdiepie isn't "systematic, brutal, ubiquitous repression and censorship", I am not sure what it is. That's effectively what happened to Bi Fujian, after he was caught bad-mouthing Mo Zedong [1].

[1] https://www.cnn.com/2015/04/08/asia/china-tv-star-curse/inde...

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Re:Learning China’s Forbidden History, So They Can Censor It by i_am_nomad on Saturday January 05, 2019 @12:38PM (#18832956)
How was pewdiepie treated brutally?
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