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Re:Learning China’s Forbidden History, So They Can Censor It by graeme on Saturday January 05, 2019 @10:54AM (#18832222)
Do you know what you don't know though? People can freely find info on politically taboo topics if they want in the west.

Whereas, do you know about the famine in the great leap forward? And it is widely known?

I was talking to one chinese student who maintained that there was no censorship in china. She was surprised to learn that I, a foreigner, could not make a wechat account for my business. And she is well educated, has travelled abroad, etc

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Re:Learning China’s Forbidden History, So They Can Censor It by paraditedc on Saturday January 05, 2019 @10:59AM (#18832255)
People know things are being censored, well, as least of my age.

There is a term and a meme for it on Chinese internet. You can Google-translate these pages that explain the term:

https://zhidao.baidu.com/question/1882528841530933188.html

https://baike.baidu.com/item/%E6%B2%B3%E8%9F%B9/10292878

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Re:Learning China’s Forbidden History, So They Can Censor It by graeme on Saturday January 05, 2019 @01:01PM (#18833087)
That was a more extreme example. I expect most Chinese online know of censorship. But do you/they know about the government caused famine under Mao?
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Re:Learning China’s Forbidden History, So They Can Censor It by paraditedc on Saturday January 05, 2019 @01:06PM (#18833121)
As far as I recall, everything else that is negative, except 1989, was taught in secondary school history class.
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Re:Learning China’s Forbidden History, So They Can Censor It by becege90 on Saturday January 05, 2019 @02:33PM (#18833698)
This is not correct. I grew up in China (Beijing to be more specific) and it is definitely not taught in school. All history I’ve learn casts China as having done everything right.
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Re:Learning China’s Forbidden History, So They Can Censor It by paraditedc on Saturday January 05, 2019 @02:40PM (#18833733)
Were you taught using 人教版 or 北师大版 history textbook? I'm pretty sure 四人帮 and 大跃进 were inside 北师大版 and called a mistake. Well at least for my year. Maybe they changed it, or you didn't pay attention in class.
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Re:Learning China’s Forbidden History, So They Can Censor It by becege90 on Saturday January 05, 2019 @02:46PM (#18833770)
It was quite a while ago so I don’t recall who made the book, I went to high school there more than 10 years ago. I used whichever books were standard. But if I remember correctly, they portraited Si Ren Bang as a group of four planning against the state, no fault was assigned to China or Mao.
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Re:Learning China’s Forbidden History, So They Can Censor It by paraditedc on Saturday January 05, 2019 @03:00PM (#18833856)
What about 大越进 or 文化大革命? At least in my textbook they were attributed as CCP and Mao's mistake.
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Re:Learning China’s Forbidden History, So They Can Censor It by becege90 on Saturday January 05, 2019 @02:37PM (#18833721)
This is a censored answer /explanation of the term.
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Re:Learning China’s Forbidden History, So They Can Censor It by thaumasiotes on Saturday January 05, 2019 @11:58AM (#18832682)
> People can freely find info on politically taboo topics if they want in the west.

> Whereas, do you know about the famine in the great leap forward? And it is widely known?

Yes, the famine is widely known. It's not considered secret at all.

However, it is attributed to the weather, not to the government.

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