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Re:The game-day caffeine routine that powers the NBA's most ... by jly on Friday January 04, 2019 @03:49PM (#18827477)
> Office workers, sleepy truckers, hospital nurses on 10-hour shifts, cabbies, students, cops? They're not the only ones who benefit from a cup, or a few, Harkless pointed out.

Don't get me wrong, I love coffee. However, it may be more accurate to say that all of these people (including the athletes) are using caffeine to medicate their chronic sleep deprivation, which may be at least partly caused in the first place by caffeine consumption.

NBA basketball players are in a tough position because they often need to peak between approx. 7-10pm (local time), and they frequently travel between 4 time zones. Most individuals would be naturally winding down alertness during those hours, even with good sleep patterns.

Re:The game-day caffeine routine that powers the NBA's most ... by sov on Friday January 04, 2019 @05:12PM (#18828178)
I don't think this is the case. I played on a B/C-tier Overwatch team as the main DPS (mostly Tracer) for several months and I can tell you there is a stark difference in snap-reflex between non-caffeinated and caffeinated states, regardless of sleep amount. There were many other things I did to improve my reflexes and rote mechanical skill in general, but none made as much an obvious difference as caffeine.
Re:The game-day caffeine routine that powers the NBA's most ... by dmoy on Friday January 04, 2019 @05:42PM (#18828431)
I did competitive fencing and we would chug caffeine during tournaments. Almost moreso for the metabolism boost though.

Because that latter effect you can build a huge tolerance for, you had to stay off of caffeine for everything but tournaments.

Re:The game-day caffeine routine that powers the NBA's most ... by thatoneuser on Saturday January 05, 2019 @08:08AM (#18831440)
Caffeine is obviously s performance enhancing drug. The ncaa has limits to how much caffeine you can have in you while performing, I’m sure other entities do as well.
Re:The game-day caffeine routine that powers the NBA's most ... by dmoy on Monday January 07, 2019 @09:15PM (#18852492)
You need to drink a lot of caffeine (or pills I suppose) to go over the limits (unless they're a lot lower now?). We're talking like on the order of a gallon of coffee or something.
Re:The game-day caffeine routine that powers the NBA's most ... by chiefalchemist on Friday January 04, 2019 @04:07PM (#18827626)
You make a good point. Sure, caffeine provides a quick, easy and relatively safe (and legal) boost. But ultimately, you have to balance that short term solution with a slightly longer term view of sleep quality and other recovery efforts. For example, what do they eat / drink as soon as the game is over to optimize recovery (so caffeine is less necessary the following night).

Put another way, you can alert the body and the mind but that doesn't necessarily lead to a high quality performance. Feel better is not the same as scoring more points.

Re:The game-day caffeine routine that powers the NBA's most ... by ergothus on Friday January 04, 2019 @05:46PM (#18828460)
(gross simplification below)

I've done a little research on caffeine, and as far as wakefulness goes (not touching the other effects here), it works by binding to the same protein receptors the body uses to decide if it is tired. Body unable to get signals that should trigger a feeling of tiredness == Body not conscious of being tired.

BUT the body responds by producing more of those receptors, making it more likely that it will start getting signals of fatigue even when the signaling proteins are at a low concentration. Thus, regular caffeine takers will find they need caffeine to feel a "normal" level of tired. It takes roughly 2 weeks without caffeine for a regular caffeine taker to achieve a no-caffeine level of such receptors.

Now, how much of the above is pseudo-science? Great question. FWIW, when I did the research the sources seemed credible enough (naming actual proteins, referring to actual studies, not just giving me animated drawings and hand-waving details) and it at least correlates with my anecdotal data - I don't use caffeinated drinks or supplements as a normal rule but do use them for special events (unusually late night/early morning) and have found the wakefulness effects to be effective unless I slip up and get too lax in my definition of "unusual". I also never thought caffeine was a big deal ( I never knew withdrawal symptoms, for example ) until I stopped using it as a general rule and my sleep improved notably. That said, my sleep quality is generally terrible so it doesn't take much to improve it.

Re:The game-day caffeine routine that powers the NBA's most ... by chiefalchemist on Friday January 04, 2019 @08:04PM (#18829193)
Did you notice any other side effects from dropping caffeine? For example, weight loss (or at least less likely to gain)? That is, I've read that stress increases cortisol. I could think (too much) caffeine can have similar effect.

I ask because I tend to feel that less caffeine makes me feel "lighter" (so to speak). But I haven't tracked it closely. It's more a general pattern that I think I'm seeing, but perhaps it's wishful thinking plus some bias?

Re:The game-day caffeine routine that powers the NBA's most ... by ergothus on Friday January 04, 2019 @08:31PM (#18829299)
Not that I recall, but I was surprised at the notable effects overall. Caffeine is so prevalent and people so knee-jerk defensive of it that we don't notice the powerful effects (be they good or bad). Unfortunately, it's been several years and I don't recall any specific reactions other than the sleep and that overall impression.
Re:The game-day caffeine routine that powers the NBA's most ... by ethbro on Friday January 04, 2019 @05:58PM (#18828551)
From the article, "'The half-life of caffeine is five to seven hours,' says Brian St. Pierre, director of performance nutrition at Precision Nutrition."

So if they drink some 30 minutes before a ~2.5 hr game, they've got 3 hours post-game. Which seems reasonable: an hour for interviews / meetings, some travel, settling in, then normal sleep.

At the NBA level, they're definitely not deficient on post-game recovery and nutrients either.

Re:The game-day caffeine routine that powers the NBA's most ... by Amezarak on Friday January 04, 2019 @07:27PM (#18829036)
A half life of six hours means that half the amount of caffeine is still in their body, so it would be affecting sleep six hours later.
Re:The game-day caffeine routine that powers the NBA's most ... by notable_user on Friday January 04, 2019 @04:16PM (#18827712)
Most people probably shouldn’t have coffee after 4PM.
Re:The game-day caffeine routine that powers the NBA's most ... by naner on Friday January 04, 2019 @07:12PM (#18828980)
It is a moderate stimulant, right? So it should provide a small boost even if you're not sleep deprived.
Re:The game-day caffeine routine that powers the NBA's most ... by hawaiianbrah on Saturday January 05, 2019 @02:45AM (#18830499)
4 time zones... ?
Re:The game-day caffeine routine that powers the NBA's most ... by nervousvarun on Sunday January 06, 2019 @02:39PM (#18840115)
It's a U.S. sport no?

The U.S. has 6 time zones, but Hawaii/Alaska don't have NBA teams: Relevant time zones are Pacific, Mountain, Central, and Eastern.