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Re:Sobriety startups shaking up the 12-step model by whiddershins on Friday January 04, 2019 @01:37AM (#18822387)
The headline is misleading, it barely references 12-steps, basically clickbait.
Re:Sobriety startups shaking up the 12-step model by markatkinson on Friday January 04, 2019 @01:44AM (#18822412)
What more would you like it to mention? I just read the article and it was about startups that are introducing newer and cheaper options for people who may have used the 12 step program, exactly what the headline insinuates.

Maybe it was changed since you commented?

Re:Sobriety startups shaking up the 12-step model by Throwaway12step on Friday January 04, 2019 @05:56AM (#18823148)
> about startups that are introducing newer and cheaper options for people who may have used the 12 step program

Just want to chime in here and say 12-Step Programs are free of charge. They pass the basket to pay for coffee and rent, but nobody is required to contribute.

Treatment Centers are not 12-Step Programs unto themselves. In fact, they engage a lot of methods that are contrary to 12-Step Programs.

Re:Sobriety startups shaking up the 12-step model by chasil on Friday January 04, 2019 @02:00AM (#18822453)
12 steps has a 10% success rate.

Naltrexone or nalmafene have a 75% success rate.

Why are we even having this conversation?

Re:Sobriety startups shaking up the 12-step model by chasil on Friday January 04, 2019 @02:09AM (#18822479)
This is the COMBINE study:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2945872/

Thus, the results of the COMBINE study demonstrated that a pharmacotherapy, like naltrexone, when given with medical counseling that emphasizes taking medications as prescribed, can yield clinically significant outcomes (reduced drinking/increased abstinence) that are either as compelling, and under some conditions, more compelling than those observed with specialty behavioral therapy. One important implication of the COMBINE results is that naltrexone with MM can be delivered in healthcare settings where traditional specialty treatment is unavailable.

Re:Sobriety startups shaking up the 12-step model by chasil on Friday January 04, 2019 @02:15AM (#18822500)
The foremost pronent of naltrexone (or nalmafene where it is not available) is Claudia Christian:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6EghiY_s2ts