Iberia claims it is part of a department store to avoid Brexit shutdown

Re:Iberia claims it is part of a department store to avoid B... by petre on Thursday January 03, 2019 @03:51PM (#18819147)

The EP and EC are by no means lightweights as long as any act voted or adopted by them becomes law, with the obligation of nation states to ratify it and transpose into national laws and regulations.

The fiscal union was flawed from the onset, which is why Margaret Tatcher opposed the UK joining the Eurozone. And she was right to do so.

https://youtu.be/5TPpuIslzG4

People in Poland, Hungary and Romania should fight for democracy, as opposed to waiting for the EU to fix their problems. Democracy is won in the street, it isn't granted by decree.

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Re:Iberia claims it is part of a department store to avoid B... by saati on Thursday January 03, 2019 @07:00PM (#18820664)

How is Hungary not democratic? Fidesz won 3 times in a row, and the election system is more fair than FPTP, they aren't banning or killing the opposition.

While I don't like their policies, this is what the people want and this is what democracy in eastern europe looks like.

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Re:Iberia claims it is part of a department store to avoid B... by barrkel on Friday January 04, 2019 @02:21AM (#18822525)

> How is Hungary not democratic? Fidesz won 3 times in a row

The 20th century was filled with dictators that won election repeatedly. Winning election repeatedly isn't the hallmark of democracy; peaceful and regular transfer of power is much more indicative.

In any case, democracy is about far more than simply winning elections. Protection of minorities, apolitical rule of law, independent media. Hungary is regressing badly across the board.

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/opinion/article-viktor-orban...

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/hungary-vikt...

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/29/world/europe/hungary-orba...

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Re:Iberia claims it is part of a department store to avoid B... by petre on Friday January 04, 2019 @01:00AM (#18822275)

This is not what democracy looks like in Eastern Europe. Instead, this is how democracy goes off the rails and is replaced by something else.

I agree with Fidesz's anti immigration stance, but I what I don't agree with is eroding democracy.

Romania is practically led by crooks who also got elected democratically. Now they're eroding democracy and the judicial and giving themselves a get out of jail free ticket.

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Re:Iberia claims it is part of a department store to avoid B... by barrkel on Thursday January 03, 2019 @05:00PM (#18819734)

I think the monetary union is a step in faith. Flawed, yes, because it's not enough, not because it shouldn't be done. EU is built out of crises etc.

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