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Re:My Name Is Daniel: He Could Have Been My Son. He Was Kill... by sjg007 on Thursday January 03, 2019 @09:21AM (#18815245)
I am not sure how we solve the peer validation issue. We can clearly see the impact of some surrogate parental validation here from the teacher to Daniel and it had a big impact. The peer validation issue though remained larger while he was in school really to Daniel's detriment. It really impacted his learning and it is very hard to separate out from the social setting. It takes a lot of delayed gratification in a place that feels much more permanent. This sets him up for difficulty later in life with no academic skills. I wonder if we can afford to do one on one intensive teaching for a while or maybe even small group classes (say 3 kids). This is a kid who clearly wanted a way out but didn't know how or believe he could. One on one therapy with a transition to small group classes works very well for kids with behavioral issues and autism. Also some psychological and CBT would have helped. That or we focus on military type boarding school but even those are hit and miss. I think our government really needs to step in and fund some alternatives so that we can end this epidemic.
Re:My Name Is Daniel: He Could Have Been My Son. He Was Kill... by danielcarver on Thursday January 03, 2019 @12:45PM (#18817127)
We can solve the peer validation issue by ceasing to create it in the first place.

In the model of human development I and my peers were taught in public school in America, humans start out life as “parent-oriented” people. Then when we go to school we become “peer-oriented.” I was taught that the transition from “parent orientation” to “peer orientation” is natural, inevitable, and healthy — but it’s none of those things. In fact, transitioning to a peer orientation has ill effects on many people, including this dude Daniel.

Being peer-oriented rather than parent-oriented is obviously unhealthy: just look at Daniel’s plight for proof of this obvious fact. But we teach that peer orientation is THE ONE AND ONLY healthy path to adulthood. We need to change what we teach. Daniel clearly yearned to connect with surrogate parent figures like this dude Joel, but the system was set up to keep him oriented towards his peers rather than parents or surrogate parent figures.

No wonder Daniel suffered the consequences of peer-orientation when the entire school system is set up to make him oriented towards his peers.

Daniel is a casualty of the system. His “faults” were created and managed by the system itself. Daniel is the victim here and blaming the victim is not a good look.

Re:My Name Is Daniel: He Could Have Been My Son. He Was Kill... by esotericn on Thursday January 03, 2019 @01:47PM (#18817883)
This is a great post.

I feel much the same about life in state school in the UK.

You're chucked into a cage, essentially, with a bunch of unformed humans, when what is really needed is a solid set of role models. Teachers can't provide that wholly, because not everyone wants to be a teacher.

Re:My Name Is Daniel: He Could Have Been My Son. He Was Kill... by sjg007 on Thursday January 03, 2019 @02:29PM (#18818352)
Aptly captured in Lord of the Flies.
Re:My Name Is Daniel: He Could Have Been My Son. He Was Kill... by Joel64 on Friday January 04, 2019 @09:58AM (#18824420)
I appreciate the words, and agree with them.