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Re:My Name Is Daniel: He Could Have Been My Son. He Was Kill... by scarejunba on Thursday January 03, 2019 @04:10AM (#18813813)
Yo, so what exactly is wrong with these guys? They are born in America and have so much support and they suck. Some of my friends grew up in rural Asia (yeah, the places of which people make fun of for lack of toilets or for poor English accents) and they freaking kick ass in America, becoming software engineers off loans they pay for themselves and shit like that.

And then these dudes are given free education and mentors and all they can come up with is getting shot in a car chase? Come on.

Re:My Name Is Daniel: He Could Have Been My Son. He Was Kill... by whack on Thursday January 03, 2019 @06:57AM (#18814475)
Your friends may have been poor, but they probably had a stable family. They probably had parents who showed them love, made them feel safe, and taught them to follow the rules, work hard and dream big. It's scary how dysfunctional a person becomes, when they are deprived of those things.

I've seen this in a number of kids/adults who grew up in abusive homes. There's something inside them that is broken. Some people should just not be allowed to have kids.

Re:My Name Is Daniel: He Could Have Been My Son. He Was Kill... by Justsignedup on Thursday January 03, 2019 @07:46AM (#18814670)
Family stability, love, and community support play the biggest role in motivation and self-being. Ever try to get a depressed person to do something productive?
Re:My Name Is Daniel: He Could Have Been My Son. He Was Kill... by sadris on Thursday January 03, 2019 @08:24AM (#18814859)
Not really. Shared environment generally doesn't matter for behavioral traits.
Re:My Name Is Daniel: He Could Have Been My Son. He Was Kill... by balladeer on Thursday January 03, 2019 @07:31AM (#18814607)
Also, at least here in India, if you are brilliant in academics (or above average) there are entrance exams and you can get into really excellent colleges (mostly run by central Govt and some by state Govts too - engg, law, medicine, design, journalism etc) at affordable tuition (which may sound like free if compared to US educational cost) and even if that cost also feels a burden education loans are really easy for such better schools and once you start earning those loans are like nothing compared to the salary you get.
Re:My Name Is Daniel: He Could Have Been My Son. He Was Kill... by AzzieElbab on Thursday January 03, 2019 @08:17AM (#18814800)
It is not like there aren't any troubled kids in rural Asia. You simply will not run into them because they either 1) won't survive or 2) so far below you on the social and economic ladder your passes will never cross
Re:My Name Is Daniel: He Could Have Been My Son. He Was Kill... by throwaway427 on Thursday January 03, 2019 @06:28AM (#18814372)
The reason you are puzzled is because you have made the error of survivorship bias.
Re:My Name Is Daniel: He Could Have Been My Son. He Was Kill... by anoncoward111 on Thursday January 03, 2019 @05:45AM (#18814207)
Yeah we have a lotttt of fuck ups here in the US. Some people's parents aren't really there for them and the kid just wants to beat their own drum.

When drugs are cheaply available, some people lose control of themselves biologically and become threats to everyone else and themselves.

It's probably a bit different from the type of upbringing that is "typical" in asia, with strict rules and expectations for the kid to lead a hard working and sober life?

Just my thoughts. This is generalizing both populations.

Re:My Name Is Daniel: He Could Have Been My Son. He Was Kill... by credit_guy on Thursday January 03, 2019 @07:45AM (#18814664)
Are you trolling?

Not having access to flushing toilets but belonging to an otherwise nurturing environment versus being under the constant threat of bullying, having to pose as a tough guy just to keep your head above the water, saving someone's ass (that's actually what Daniel did to Joel by sneaking out of the classroom and calling for help) means your life is messed up?

Re:My Name Is Daniel: He Could Have Been My Son. He Was Kill... by pjc50 on Thursday January 03, 2019 @04:26AM (#18813872)
Parental abuse and neglect is a hell of a thing to shake off.
Re:My Name Is Daniel: He Could Have Been My Son. He Was Kill... by lazyjones on Thursday January 03, 2019 @06:32AM (#18814384)
> They are born in America and have so much support and they suck.

Just think a while about this guy's kids, how they will grow up.

It's an epidemic. You can't fix everything that goes wrong in a childhood with a little education and support.