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Re:Ethereum Plans to Cut Its Energy Consumption by 99 Percent by r32a_ on Wednesday January 02, 2019 @09:01PM (#18812194)
Ethereum claims to be the "World Computer" that lets you build "Unstoppable Applications". If that doesn't sound like an AWS competitor then I don't know.
Re:Ethereum Plans to Cut Its Energy Consumption by 99 Percent by plywoodtrees on Wednesday January 02, 2019 @09:12PM (#18812250)
Sure, it's in some sense "an AWS competitor" but something like a billion times less efficient, measured by throughput, energy efficiency, or cost. So, in practice, no it's not.
Re:Ethereum Plans to Cut Its Energy Consumption by 99 Percent by ENGNR on Wednesday January 02, 2019 @11:00PM (#18812706)
AWS actually made an interesting product, a distributed ledger that's 'trustless' as long as you trust Amazon, but with none of the overhead of blockchain so at least it's efficient

I think Ethereum is going big places, but the AWS ledger solution is probably also going to be good for smaller industries where competitors don't trust each other, they want a database that's shared, and they all might trust Amazon enough to control it (eg if they're all using AWS anyway)

(https://aws.amazon.com/qldb/)

Re:Ethereum Plans to Cut Its Energy Consumption by 99 Percent by runeks on Sunday January 06, 2019 @03:38AM (#18837312)
> […] a distributed ledger that's 'trustless' as long as you trust Amazon […]

This has been possible since the 80’s due to public key encryption.

It’s not having to trust a central actor that’s the innovation behind e.g. Bitcoin.

Re:Ethereum Plans to Cut Its Energy Consumption by 99 Percent by bitxbitxbitcoin on Wednesday January 02, 2019 @09:35PM (#18812352)
Well put!

To put it another way, the problems that Ethereum will solve are not ones that could be solved by AWS.

Re:Ethereum Plans to Cut Its Energy Consumption by 99 Percent by anoncoward111 on Wednesday January 02, 2019 @09:45PM (#18812402)
Totally agree.

Despite both being energy/transport companies, Embraer and Tesla are solving two very different consumer problems.

Re:Ethereum Plans to Cut Its Energy Consumption by 99 Percent by Zhyl on Wednesday January 02, 2019 @09:16PM (#18812279)
I see it less of a computing platform and more like the spinning table from the beginning of Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom. The goal isn't to compute faster or better than others, it's for parties with competing interests to trust the computations that have taken place.
Re:Ethereum Plans to Cut Its Energy Consumption by 99 Percent by profalseidol on Wednesday January 02, 2019 @09:56PM (#18812451)
It's a git with stored procedures that can push commits.
Re:Ethereum Plans to Cut Its Energy Consumption by 99 Percent by rocqua on Thursday January 03, 2019 @04:04AM (#18813789)
Notably, there are rules that will block invalid commits, and tools that prevent git branches.
Re:Ethereum Plans to Cut Its Energy Consumption by 99 Percent by jcoffland on Wednesday January 02, 2019 @11:04PM (#18812729)
It's a hammer and nails. /s
Re:Ethereum Plans to Cut Its Energy Consumption by 99 Percent by 0x8BADF00D on Wednesday January 02, 2019 @09:22PM (#18812299)
Comparing Ethereum to AWS is an apples and oranges comparison at best. One is first order, and the other is second order.

You could make an argument it’s a competitor to AWS Lambda, but it would be akin to saying lxc is a serverless competitor.

Re:Ethereum Plans to Cut Its Energy Consumption by 99 Percent by r32a_ on Wednesday January 02, 2019 @09:26PM (#18812315)
I'm not comparing them, Ethereum marketing team pitched Ethereum as a world computer not me.
Re:Ethereum Plans to Cut Its Energy Consumption by 99 Percent by konschubert on Thursday January 03, 2019 @03:54PM (#18819178)
You are misunderstanding what they mean with “world” computer
Re:Ethereum Plans to Cut Its Energy Consumption by 99 Percent by vvillena on Wednesday January 02, 2019 @09:29PM (#18812328)
Think of it as one, single "world computer" and it will be much closer to reality. Everyone can access that computer for free, and use it for a price.
Re:Ethereum Plans to Cut Its Energy Consumption by 99 Percent by banachtarski on Wednesday January 02, 2019 @10:27PM (#18812593)
> ... for free ... for a price
Re:Ethereum Plans to Cut Its Energy Consumption by 99 Percent by bigiain on Wednesday January 02, 2019 @11:13PM (#18812766)
"access" vs "use".

Everybody can see the code/transactions that are run for free. Everybody can have their code run and execute transactions for a price.

Re:Ethereum Plans to Cut Its Energy Consumption by 99 Percent by bigiain on Wednesday January 02, 2019 @11:10PM (#18812753)
I use quite a lot of AWS - and there's precisely zero chance I'll ever migrate, say, a mobile app backend platform to an Ethereum "unstoppable application"...

There are quite probably innovative new things that can be built using Etherium's "world computer", but my guess is that almost _none_ of what's currently running on (and paying for) AWS resources will move to it.

Re:Ethereum Plans to Cut Its Energy Consumption by 99 Percent by outside1234 on Wednesday January 02, 2019 @09:11PM (#18812242)
Can we get real for a second? Ethereum has no chance of taking on AWS or Microsoft.

Those are multi billion dollar business with billion dollar requirements in infrastructure investment on a yearly basis. Not going to happen.

Re:Ethereum Plans to Cut Its Energy Consumption by 99 Percent by r32a_ on Wednesday January 02, 2019 @09:27PM (#18812321)
I agree! But that's what Ethereum was pitched as.
Re:Ethereum Plans to Cut Its Energy Consumption by 99 Percent by bigiain on Wednesday January 02, 2019 @11:16PM (#18812776)
Seems to me you're making invalid assumptions about what "world computer" means.

There's not a lot to go in in those two words, but claiming they mean Etherium is out to capture all (or any) of AWS's customers is a _very_ long stretch.