Re:USB Type-C to Become More Secure with Authentication Stan...
by gumby on Wednesday January 02, 2019 @05:30PM
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> USB-C data blockers don't seem to exist.
They do -- I carry one one of my employees made in our lab. Search for "usb-c condom" or "usb-c data blocker" and you will find several offered for sale.
Re:USB Type-C to Become More Secure with Authentication Stan...
by geofft on Thursday January 03, 2019 @09:19AM
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The ones I've seen work by severing all of the data pins, limiting you to the old 5 V * 2 A limit. Have you seen any data blockeds that support the power delivery spec and are suitable for devices that need over 10 W (larger laptops, the Switch, etc.)?
Re:USB Type-C to Become More Secure with Authentication Stan...
by gumby on Thursday January 03, 2019 @03:20PM
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I have one that negotiates power delivery on both ends. But I don’t believe it was manufactured commercially — it’s just a bare board with no housing. I’ll ask the guy who made it if he’d publish the design files.
Re:USB Type-C to Become More Secure with Authentication Stan...
by Spooky23 on Wednesday January 02, 2019 @05:52PM
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There’s a whole spectrum of bad actors.
Incompetence is scarier than malicious actors imo, and expecting users to carry USB condoms around seems like a bad idea.
Re:USB Type-C to Become More Secure with Authentication Stan...
by floatingatoll on Wednesday January 02, 2019 @06:45PM
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I assume USB-IF wants all uses of the word USB with respect to any hardware - including cables - to be backed by a DigiCert signature, and all other uses to be rejected by non-developer-mode devices so their enforcement success rate improves versus generic knockoffs that can’t easily be sued.
You're worried, I think, about poor-quality devices that aren't malicious, just incompetent - or poor-quality cables. (I'm already willing to carry my own cable - I already carry a USB-A data blocker around, but USB-C data blockers don't seem to exist.) I think that can be solved without cryptographic authentication, with the standard approach of having a certification organization like UL or the USB-IF themselves investigate cable/charger production and test them. It seems the major problem here is with Amazon listing cables without showing whether they have certifications (or checking whether certifications are forged), and that's a general Amazon problem with poor-quality hardware and counterfeits.
This article is talking about autorun, Stuxnet, etc. so I think they're focusing on the latter. If the USB-IF wanted to use digital signatures to authenticate cables I'd be more on board, but if they do that, they should just be authenticating cables, not devices. (A cable, I believe, can be engineered to just cut the circuits if a device tries to pass too much voltage, or is wired backwards, or something.)