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Re:Tesla cuts prices as Model 3 deliveries narrowly miss est... by qroshan on Wednesday January 02, 2019 @12:57PM (#18808312)
Huh? Did you compare Q3 and Q4 numbers, the growth has pretty much reached steady state. 90,000 per quarter is what Tesla will be and probably 500 Million annual profit.

50% profit growth is delusional at this stage

Re:Tesla cuts prices as Model 3 deliveries narrowly miss est... by 300bps on Wednesday January 02, 2019 @01:14PM (#18808480)
Q32018: 55,800 Model 3s delivered.

Q42018: 63,100 Model 3s delivered.

That's a 13% growth rate in a single quarter which is more than 50% growth rate annualized.

Re:Tesla cuts prices as Model 3 deliveries narrowly miss est... by microtherion on Wednesday January 02, 2019 @01:34PM (#18808672)
Yes, but during Q3, weekly production ramped up from ~2000 to ~4200. During Q4, weekly production stayed pretty much flat.

https://assets.bwbx.io/images/users/iqjWHBFdfxIU/iqPFhpeWEIS...

Article: https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2018-tesla-tracker/

Re:Tesla cuts prices as Model 3 deliveries narrowly miss est... by zaroth on Wednesday January 02, 2019 @04:03PM (#18810163)
It’s almost like the company should consider manufacturing and selling Teslas in a country other than the USA...
Re:Tesla cuts prices as Model 3 deliveries narrowly miss est... by gamblor956 on Wednesday January 02, 2019 @01:33PM (#18808660)
If Tesla was expecting 50% annualized growth, or even growth comparable to their recent historical trends, they would not have cut the price tag on every model of car they sell.
Re:Tesla cuts prices as Model 3 deliveries narrowly miss est... by jsight on Wednesday January 02, 2019 @04:30PM (#18810427)
I don't follow your logic here. With the reduced tax incentive, Teslas have seen an effective increase of ~$1,750 USD.

Would you normally argue that a yearly price increase of ~3% on a car portends anything in particular about demand? I guess it implies that they expected demand to fall if the increase had been ~6% instead, but that doesn't seem like anything that would preclude 50% worldwide growth.

Re:Tesla cuts prices as Model 3 deliveries narrowly miss est... by mulmen on Wednesday January 02, 2019 @01:42PM (#18808755)
That... isn’t how economies of scale or elasticity of demand work.
Re:Tesla cuts prices as Model 3 deliveries narrowly miss est... by gamblor956 on Wednesday January 02, 2019 @02:09PM (#18809001)
I think you might need to brush up on your understanding of demand elasticity curves.

Tesla is dropping the sticker price of their vehicles because they think that demand for their cars is at least somewhat elastic with respect to sticker price, and they're in a better position than you or me to have the data and analysis on this. (Tesla has also announced that this is why they're dropping the price so I'm not sure why you're arguing this point?)

Economies of scale are not related to this drop in price. Economies of scale refers to it being cheaper to product an product at scale due to efficiencies in the use of the largely fixed-cost capital expenditures. Companies don't usually drop prices due to EOS until at least a quarter or two after they've reached that point in the production cost cycle, largely to confirm that they've actually reached EOS operationally, and some company's retain the efficiencies from EOS as profit until/unless they need to for competitive market reasons.

Re:Tesla cuts prices as Model 3 deliveries narrowly miss est... by mulmen on Wednesday January 02, 2019 @02:15PM (#18809075)
Or: they’re dropping the sticker price to keep the overall cost of the vehicle stable or lower to meet demand.

Economies of scale allow them to do this.

Re:Tesla cuts prices as Model 3 deliveries narrowly miss est... by gamblor956 on Wednesday January 02, 2019 @07:30PM (#18811751)
Or: since the car is actually more expensive out-of-pocket even after the price "drop", they're simply doing this to reduce the sticker price they quote on all of their marketing materials.
Re:Tesla cuts prices as Model 3 deliveries narrowly miss est... by jacobkranz on Wednesday January 02, 2019 @01:12PM (#18808459)
I think OP's point is that Tesla isn't just a car company but they're also an energy storage & solar producer. While the car biz may have be leveling off (and that's not accounting for the semi & modely Y launching this year and next respectively), their energy storage is starting to take off along with the solar roofs so this provides huge growth opportunities in the future.