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Re:As oil and gas exports surge, West Texas becomes the worl... by humanrebar on Monday December 31, 2018 @04:28AM (#18793799)
If you really want to convince someone of a new position, you should really refrain from attacking their identity and show that you really understand why they make the decisions they do before offering a better alternative.

> ...stiving for betterment while tolerating imperfection, as jesus taught...

And on a particular point, Jesus never taught that in those words. It might be a fair inference and application, but "how would Jesus vote" is a tricky argument to make. Especially considering that the U.S. has a representative democracy and not a direct democracy. Would Jesus vote for candidate A who favors a carbon tax and opposes ICE? Or candidate B who opposes late term abortion and wants better support for adoptive parents?

Re:As oil and gas exports surge, West Texas becomes the worl... by pjc50 on Monday December 31, 2018 @05:50AM (#18794007)
> Would Jesus vote for candidate A who favors a carbon tax and opposes ICE? Or candidate B who opposes late term abortion and wants better support for adoptive parents?

Well, that might be the options in the Democrat primary, but what about the Republican positions?

Re:As oil and gas exports surge, West Texas becomes the worl... by war1025 on Monday December 31, 2018 @08:05AM (#18794319)
Sounds like it would do you some good to spend more time around Republicans. They aren't really that different from Democrats.
Re:As oil and gas exports surge, West Texas becomes the worl... by pjc50 on Monday December 31, 2018 @10:44AM (#18794967)
Oh, I'm just kibitzing from across the Atlantic. But it doesn't really matter what people are like socially - I'm sure there are nice Republicans and there is a subset of Democrat machine politics people I would no doubt regard as awful if I met them - it matters what the actual policy enacted and its effects are.
Re:As oil and gas exports surge, West Texas becomes the worl... by war1025 on Monday December 31, 2018 @11:09AM (#18795143)
On the policy front they don't end up that different either. They just use smoke and mirrors to make it look that way. Keeps people aggravated.
Re:As oil and gas exports surge, West Texas becomes the worl... by clairity on Monday December 31, 2018 @04:02PM (#18797001)
not every comment is meant to persuade or attack. sometimes it's just discussion. mine was a lament and a commiseration.

i grew up in both the evangelical and catholic traditions. there were some great people, but the hypocrisy of the many was unbearable.