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Re:It is fast or it is wrong by whatshisface on Saturday December 29, 2018 @12:04PM (#18784486)
The blog post was mainly written about GUI toolkits, if your application was freezing for 78 seconds waiting for a screen redraw you might be willing to settle for uglier syntax.
Re:It is fast or it is wrong by jonahx on Saturday December 29, 2018 @12:08PM (#18784517)
> if your application was freezing for 78 seconds waiting for a screen redraw

78 seconds was the compile time. The runtimes were almost identical: 0.45 seconds to run the entire test suite in the fastest case vs 1.3 in the slowest.

Re:It is fast or it is wrong by EmbarrassedFuel on Saturday December 29, 2018 @12:38PM (#18784688)
The slowest is three times slower than the fastest! That’s not almost identical at all, and could easily be the difference between a useable interface and an unbearable one...
Re:It is fast or it is wrong by jonahx on Saturday December 29, 2018 @12:50PM (#18784753)
It could be. And when I have evidence that user experience is affected, I'll care about the difference. But what if it's 1ms vs 3ms? Or 3ms vs 9ms? And the 9ms time is a much more expressive, productive, high-level language?

I'm not going to care about the difference just because "omg one number is 3x another number!?!"

Re:It is fast or it is wrong by sharpneli on Saturday December 29, 2018 @01:04PM (#18784824)
For an soft realtime application like game that’s the difference between 10fps and 30fps. Or 30 and 90. Basically total failure or success.
Re:It is fast or it is wrong by jonahx on Saturday December 29, 2018 @01:30PM (#18784968)
I was referring to response time in a GUI app -- 9ms is undetectable.

Again, if you have a reason the speed matters, then it matters. The specific numbers here are not relevant to my argument, which boils down to: being "slow", in and of itself, is meaningless.

Re:It is fast or it is wrong by robocat on Saturday December 29, 2018 @04:16PM (#18785733)
0.45 vs 1.3 is mentioned as being almost irrelevant in the article - from article: “Another interesting observation is that it makes no difference what hardware you use to run it. If the solution is fast, it’ll be fast on a notebook as well as on a beefed-up workstation-class desktop. Sure, it might be twice or thrice slower, but it’ll be a difference between 10ms and 30ms.”

All up the article starts with reasonable discussion about how different solutions can have more than 6 orders of magnitude time difference, then it segues irrelevantly to a complaint about electron.