The Ghost in the Machine: An AI Perspective on the Soul [video]

Re:The Ghost in the Machine: An AI Perspective on the Soul [... by DyslexicAtheist on Saturday December 29, 2018 @05:40AM (#18783018)

probably one of the best talks of yesterday. The speaker has no doubt read GEB so it might appeal to the HN crowd ...

Speaking of Nominative Determinism, not only is his last name Bach, he covered Gödel's incompleteness theorem in the talk :-)

I will need to re-watch this at least one more time because it was so full of goodies. The Q/A was as good as the talk itself. 13/10 would watch again :)

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Re:The Ghost in the Machine: An AI Perspective on the Soul [... by pantalaimon on Saturday December 29, 2018 @06:13AM (#18783100)

If you haven't seen then yet, Joscha also did talks in a similar vein in the previous years:

https://media.ccc.de/v/30C3_-_5526_-_en_-_saal_2_-_201312291...

https://media.ccc.de/v/31c3_-_6573_-_en_-_saal_2_-_201412281...

https://media.ccc.de/v/32c3-7483-computational_meta-psycholo...

https://media.ccc.de/v/33c3-8369-machine_dreams

And if you understand German, he was also in the last Alternativlos Podcast where he talked about some ideas from this talk, but also some more

https://alternativlos.org/42/

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Re:The Ghost in the Machine: An AI Perspective on the Soul [... by snailletters on Saturday December 29, 2018 @06:17AM (#18783110)

Joscha Bach is great. He has many other talks available on his website. [0]

His Twitter [1] is also a fun and interesting place, check it out.

0. http://bach.ai/videos/ 1. https://twitter.com/Plinz

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Re:The Ghost in the Machine: An AI Perspective on the Soul [... by platz on Saturday December 29, 2018 @06:03PM (#18786228)

Speaker did not offer an alternative to dualism as claimed. It was dualism. He just focused mostly on the mental part e.g. neuroscience and psychology.

His model for explaining how brains organize thoughts (the 'easy' problem), does not address how the physical world allows for consciousness in the first place (the 'hard' problem c.f. David Chalmers https://www.preposterousuniverse.com/podcast/2018/12/03/epis... ).

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Re:The Ghost in the Machine: An AI Perspective on the Soul [... by xfs on Saturday December 29, 2018 @06:58AM (#18783237)

Did he mention Scott Aaronson's Ghost in the Quantum Turing Machine? That is a great take on consciousness and free will that I know of.

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Re:The Ghost in the Machine: An AI Perspective on the Soul [... by DanielleMolloy on Saturday December 29, 2018 @08:57AM (#18783552)

He didn't mention it yesterday, but thanks for the pointer!

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Re:The Ghost in the Machine: An AI Perspective on the Soul [... by mark_l_watson on Saturday December 29, 2018 @08:55AM (#18783547)

Interesting, and he makes me want to GEB.

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Re:The Ghost in the Machine: An AI Perspective on the Soul [... by rick22 on Sunday December 30, 2018 @06:40AM (#18788652)

What is GEB ?

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Re:The Ghost in the Machine: An AI Perspective on the Soul [... by DyslexicAtheist on Thursday January 03, 2019 @06:14AM (#18814315)

Gödel Escher Bach, see https://hn.algolia.com/?query=goedel%20escher&sort=byPopular...

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