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Re:How the pilots of Lion Air Flight 610 lost control by caf on Thursday December 27, 2018 @12:22AM (#18767539)
I think the most important point described in that article is that the MCAS trim, unlike the other kinds of elevator trim, isn't defeated by limit switches on the yoke - and that this critical information was not in the training or flight manual.
Re:How the pilots of Lion Air Flight 610 lost control by dotancohen on Thursday December 27, 2018 @08:22AM (#18769265)
If true, then this right here is the problem root. Why isn't pilot limit respected with regard for the MCAS specifically? Are any other systems so independent?

I remember years ago the Boeing folks claiming that the automated Airbuses would be dangerous because the pilot always knows best. So how did it come to this on a Boeing?

Re:How the pilots of Lion Air Flight 610 lost control by caf on Thursday December 27, 2018 @09:41AM (#18769657)
The answer appears to be something along the lines of "because the whole point of MCAS is to stop the pilot flying the aircraft beyond the limits of stability".