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Re:Chinese companies rally around Huawei after CFO arrest by mirimir on Tuesday December 25, 2018 @11:18PM (#18760477)
I'm sure that it's retaliation over the Huawei arrest. But those two aren't exactly innocent tourists.[0] And I'm sure that the Chinese could make passable arguments for their detention. Espionage is a difficult charge to disprove.

0) https://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/biographical-...

Re:Chinese companies rally around Huawei after CFO arrest by bilbo0s on Wednesday December 26, 2018 @12:19AM (#18760716)
This is what a lot of people don't realize, no matter what country you are in, you are always guilty of something.

I'm an American, in America, and I'm 100% certain that I'm in violation of at least one of the over 40,000 laws and regulations that exist on the federal level. (And that doesn't even count the state and local laws and ordinances.)

Here's the thing though, I have no idea which laws and regulations I'm currently in violation of.

So all a country has to do is pick someone. Just arrest them, and assuming a sufficiently complex legal system, whoever they arrest will be in violation of some law. As regular people we just can't help it. We have no ability to maintain an awareness of every law and regulation we are subject to and stay in compliance with them.

So if you're Canadian or American, and you're not someone with the resources or clout to protect yourself from all of this, I'd strongly urge you to consider business models that allow you to operate at a distance from Asia. No one wants to be the dumb patsy sitting in a Chinese prison for 10 years because China and the US want to throw temper tantrums with each other.

Re:Chinese companies rally around Huawei after CFO arrest by nutcracker46 on Wednesday December 26, 2018 @12:13AM (#18760692)
That's a viewpoint of a bullshit legal system of thugs, based on the accused being guilty until proven innocent.
Re:Chinese companies rally around Huawei after CFO arrest by mirimir on Wednesday December 26, 2018 @12:26AM (#18760752)
Actually, that's a pretty common standard. It's more or less a part of legal systems based on the Napoleonic Code. Defendants are basically treated as guilty until proven innocent. Don't get arrested in Mexico, for example, unless you can pay good bribes.

And actually, now in the UK you can be jailed for refusing to provide decryption keys or passphrases. We just saw the new policy in India. And things are heading that way in the US. Also, those charged with politically incorrect offenses are more and more treated as guilty until proven innocent.

So anyway, claiming moral superiority is an iffy proposition.