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Re:Consciousness: The last 50 years (and the next) by naasking on Tuesday December 25, 2018 @06:30PM (#18759629)
> Can you provide some logic against that argument?

Turing machines are deterministic. Enumerating all Turing machines is deterministic. Whether any given Turing machine will terminate is unpredictable (the Halting problem).

Unpredictability does not entail nondeterminism, although distinguishing the two is not necessarily always possible.

Re:Consciousness: The last 50 years (and the next) by Erlich_Bachman on Thursday December 27, 2018 @03:08PM (#18772194)
But turing machines are theoretical concepts. The physical processors we have - are only physical approximations of a theoretical concepts - and if the argument was made for the view of "determinism" that I outlined - it would be about the physical processor, the physical world itself.

Paraphrasing, the theoretical image of an atom, as well as the set of atoms and other particles - is perfectly deterministic. But the chaos theory talks about the real world, not the theoretical framework.

Re:Consciousness: The last 50 years (and the next) by naasking on Friday December 28, 2018 @09:14AM (#18776793)
The concept of determinism has no physical limits. Don't try to redefine standard terminology.
Re:Consciousness: The last 50 years (and the next) by Erlich_Bachman on Saturday December 29, 2018 @05:25AM (#18782977)
The concept has no limits, true. The physical world does.