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Re:Americans Don’t Understand How Bad Climate Change Is or W... by kristopolous on Monday December 24, 2018 @01:01AM (#18750669)
Requiring people to be responsible for their impact on the world? Incorporating externalities in prices so products are accountable and not subsidized by the public through their health, cleanup, and environmental costs? Clear labeling on the total lifecycle impact of a product? Banning harmful hazardous chemicals with impact lifecycles in the tens of thousands of years?

Is this the dreadful fascism you speak of?

Even the fiercest AnaCap doesn't think products should be intentionally deceptive and lie to the consumer on the assumption collective society will pay for the harm...

Re:Americans Don’t Understand How Bad Climate Change Is or W... by pteredactyl on Monday December 24, 2018 @01:49AM (#18750822)
When you say "requiring people..." you prove my point.

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I don't own a car, avoid plastic, avoid amazon, eat organics, often shop local, used, etc, etc. But not because the government tells me, but because I feel compelled. Of my own accord.

Yes. I would love labels that gave full provenance of an item. Your list is great. But I see, like what we saw in France, the government justifying more taxes in the name of saving the earth.

Again, great intentions. Just not the people I trust to handle my money, or really anything for that matter.

Re:Americans Don’t Understand How Bad Climate Change Is or W... by kristopolous on Monday December 24, 2018 @04:07AM (#18751226)
Holding people accountable for their actions is hardly a form a fascism.

On the contrary it's frequently argued as one of the cornerstones of civilization.

If someone is knowingly harming others, most people would probably agree that activity should be curtailed. That's not really authoritarianism, it's securing a prosperous future.

Re:Americans Don’t Understand How Bad Climate Change Is or W... by alacombe on Monday December 24, 2018 @01:05AM (#18750679)
Yes, everything you enumerated is by definition anti individual freedom.
Re:Americans Don’t Understand How Bad Climate Change Is or W... by kristopolous on Monday December 24, 2018 @03:58AM (#18751202)
Freedom to destroy the commons, lie to people, poison the population, swindle the community, and offload your trash onto others?

Really? That's what your stand for?

I'm not familiar with any doctrine of individual freedom that holds sacred dumping garbage into a river which everyone relies on and treating our atmosphere which everyone uses like a giant toilet while flipping everyone else the bird as some inviolable right.

That's one of the real world issues with the property based libertarian philosophy. Nature, animals, plants, fires, pollinating insects, floods, the weather, none of these give a damn about who owns what property on paper. We have to treat it and care for it all collectively, there's no other way. I know it's hard but it has to be done.

Re:Americans Don’t Understand How Bad Climate Change Is or W... by pteredactyl on Wednesday January 02, 2019 @03:36AM (#18804964)
Tell me, you really think alacombe wants these things? 90% of the population would agree with you. That those things are to be avoided. Myself included.

Unfortunately you've been brainwashed into thinking the government is the only entity equipped to fix these problems. When in fact they're the ones ensuring the problems continue. And idiots like you continue to support these false choices given to you by the government. And you probably continue to pay for it with ridiculous taxes. Thinking 'yea, they'll fix it'.

Get over yourself. And your virtue signals. Realize 90% of the population wants the same things as you.