It isn't worth anyone's time to disentangle such knots of who attacked who for what opinion they could only have if $XYZ.

It only seems that way when you get sucked in to the flamewar vortex, and then only temporarily. Please just don't do this on HN.

Continuing to break the site guidelines like this is going to get you banned here. Would you mind reviewing https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and using the site as intended from now on?

You might also find these other links helpful for getting a clearer idea of the spirit of the site:

https://news.ycombinator.com/newswelcome.html

https://news.ycombinator.com/hackernews.html

http://www.paulgraham.com/hackernews.html

http://www.paulgraham.com/trolls.html