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Re:AT&T will put a fake 5G logo on its 4G LTE phones by DannyBee on Friday December 21, 2018 @05:26PM (#18737259)
Yes, they do.

It's a little different than it used to be though. Historically, the carriers require their magic signal bar algorithms/network type display by contract if you wanted to sell phones in their stores.

Now, less phones target each carrier specifically than used to, but ...

Some of them also used to require display of various network types in various situations (IE you were required to display 4G in circumstances where it was on their "4g network", regardless of whether you were using a 4g protocol)

Re:AT&T will put a fake 5G logo on its 4G LTE phones by sofaofthedamned on Friday December 21, 2018 @05:42PM (#18737363)
You can't trust any of this when it comes to mobile networks, they control the domain and have to play by their rules.

Example? I used to work at a company that made femtocells, basically small 3g base stations. All 2 way radios are a co-operative medium, i.e. shouting 'fire' in a crowded room raises the noise floor for everybody so they all need to shout.

We had hundreds of handsets for testing so knew when a particular model/brand/firmware version wasn't working to spec. We'd shoot an email to the manufacturer to get it sorted. Most were fine, but the one that never responded? A certain fruit related company.

Re:AT&T will put a fake 5G logo on its 4G LTE phones by londons_explore on Friday December 21, 2018 @06:34PM (#18737683)
Orange!

Probably the fruit company with the most models of phone (Nearly all white label Huawei models, but still!)

Re:AT&T will put a fake 5G logo on its 4G LTE phones by sofaofthedamned on Friday December 21, 2018 @07:00PM (#18737864)
Nope. A manufacturer not a mobile network, apologies if it wasn't clear.
Re:AT&T will put a fake 5G logo on its 4G LTE phones by lovemenot on Friday December 21, 2018 @08:12PM (#18738201)
Sounds like the green grocer sketch. "My Blackberry is not working"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kAG39jKi0lI

Re:AT&T will put a fake 5G logo on its 4G LTE phones by chrisseaton on Friday December 21, 2018 @06:11PM (#18737557)
> Yes, they do.

I don't think my operator even knows what kind of phone I have, let alone any access to any software on it. How could they be controlling it? Is it something actually in the SIM?

Re:AT&T will put a fake 5G logo on its 4G LTE phones by YUMad on Friday December 21, 2018 @06:20PM (#18737616)
Baseband cpu. Your phone has 2 separate cpus, and you dont have any access to the 2nd one. Your provider does.
Re:AT&T will put a fake 5G logo on its 4G LTE phones by gst on Friday December 21, 2018 @06:50PM (#18737793)
That's one of the reasons why the makers of the Librem 5 phone decided to use an internal USB bus which isolates the baseband from the SoC:

> To isolate the cellular modem from the SoC, we will be placing the modem on the (remarkably fast) USB bus and have the phone interact with the cellular modem through USB instead of on the main RAM bus. This will separate the cellular modem on its own bus without seeing any other data.

(https://puri.sm/posts/librem5-2018-09-hardware-report/)

Re:AT&T will put a fake 5G logo on its 4G LTE phones by kevin_thibedeau on Friday December 21, 2018 @07:33PM (#18738027)
These processors don't use a shared memory bus. It's just marketing dribble.
Re:AT&T will put a fake 5G logo on its 4G LTE phones by chrisseaton on Friday December 21, 2018 @06:28PM (#18737655)
How do they get code onto that processor? From the SIM?
Re:AT&T will put a fake 5G logo on its 4G LTE phones by callalex on Saturday December 22, 2018 @12:51AM (#18739172)
Over the network these days. Have you ever gotten a message on your phone similar to “carrier settings updated” especially after switching a device from one network to another? That’s what it means.
Re:AT&T will put a fake 5G logo on its 4G LTE phones by gst on Friday December 21, 2018 @06:47PM (#18737773)
The operator knows your phone's IMEI which allows to determine the brand/model.