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Re:Copyleft and community licenses are not without merit, bu... by zeotroph on Friday December 21, 2018 @05:16PM (#18737191)
> Linux kernel [..] BSD licensed.

It would be another BSD with not many commercial players contributing to. BSD-ish licenses mean free labor for companies, but are problematic for cooperation. The easiest way is always to "defect": Take the sources and never contribute back - it might help a competitor.

The Copyleft licenses work around that and make cooperation between of adversaries possible.

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Re:Copyleft and community licenses are not without merit, bu... by Joky on Friday December 21, 2018 @08:48PM (#18738359)
LLVM is an example that this black-and-white view of the world does not generalize.
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Re:Copyleft and community licenses are not without merit, bu... by antt on Friday December 21, 2018 @09:54PM (#18738636)
LLVM only exists because companies can't steal from gcc. The second gcc disappears LLVM will be forked a dozen times with no one seeing any source code again.
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Re:Copyleft and community licenses are not without merit, bu... by Joky on Friday January 04, 2019 @08:38PM (#18829332)
Can you clarify what is this claim based on? I have been working on LLVM for years and this is absolutely not the dynamic in LLVM...
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Re:Copyleft and community licenses are not without merit, bu... by robocat on Friday December 21, 2018 @10:39PM (#18738771)
Context for anyone who wants to understand what parent is referencing:

http://llvm.org/foundation/relicensing/

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18699228

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Re:Copyleft and community licenses are not without merit, bu... by Joky on Friday January 04, 2019 @08:41PM (#18829343)
Actually, I was trying to address "The Copyleft licenses work around that and make cooperation between of adversaries possible" to show that a more "BSD-like" license like LLVM have many "adversaries" collaborating: researchers, enthusiasts, and otherwise competing companies. This is a rebuttal to "It would be another BSD with not many commercial players contributing to. BSD-ish licenses mean free labor for companies, but are problematic for cooperation".

https://www.wired.com/2013/07/apple-google-llvm/

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Re:Copyleft and community licenses are not without merit, bu... by TaylorAlexander on Friday December 21, 2018 @09:21PM (#18738505)
Cooperation is always possible. Copyleft licenses make cooperation mandatory.
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