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Re:Facebook open-sources a speech-recognition system and a m... by rurban on Friday December 21, 2018 @04:05PM (#18736642)
Their mobile app most likely records everything being said and transmits it encrypted to their servers, so that they can improve ad targeting.
Re:Facebook open-sources a speech-recognition system and a m... by pavlov on Friday December 21, 2018 @04:09PM (#18736668)
That’s a nonsense conspiracy theory. Thousands of people have internal access to the full source code for the mobile app.

“Ah, but there’s an undetectable binary blob that gets linked in and called without being detected by anyone working on the code,” you say. In that case consider the battery life impact. The power consumption of the Facebook app compares favorably to its social media peers. Is everybody else also recording, encoding and encrypting all the time?

Re:Facebook open-sources a speech-recognition system and a m... by gaius on Saturday December 22, 2018 @12:54AM (#18739185)
Thousands of people have internal access to the full source code for the mobile app.

So what? Thousands of the same people have access to the full source code of everything underhanded Facebook do and it hasn’t stopped anything.

Re:Facebook open-sources a speech-recognition system and a m... by sfilargi on Friday December 21, 2018 @04:15PM (#18736709)
I am not saying that the grand-parent is on to something, but I would be careful when calling anything done by them as "nonsense conspiracy theory". They have proved these "conspiracy theories" to be true quite a few times.
Re:Facebook open-sources a speech-recognition system and a m... by traek on Friday December 21, 2018 @04:52PM (#18737022)
> They have proved these "conspiracy theories" to be true quite a few times.

Such as?

Facebook has explicitly denied spying on people's conversations. I can't think of any situations where they have flat out lied about something like that, so I'm curious to hear what conspiracy theories they have proven true.

Re:Facebook open-sources a speech-recognition system and a m... by sfilargi on Friday December 21, 2018 @05:39PM (#18737340)
> Such as?

Shadow profiles for example.

Re:Facebook open-sources a speech-recognition system and a m... by cwkoss on Friday December 21, 2018 @05:13PM (#18737174)
They lied to congress about selling access to users' private messages.
Re:Facebook open-sources a speech-recognition system and a m... by pavlov on Friday December 21, 2018 @05:21PM (#18737218)
You mean this week’s news that Spotify and Netflix had experimental messaging client integrations years ago?

It’s a complete mischaracterisation that Facebook shared private messages with Spotify. By the same logic, you could say Google is sharing your emails with Apple when you access Gmail using the iOS Mail client.

Spotify was offering an integrated client to FB’s chat service. This UI integration was a market failure and was discontinued years ago. Of all the things wrong with Facebook, this wasn’t worth the noise.

Re:Facebook open-sources a speech-recognition system and a m... by rurban on Friday December 21, 2018 @04:50PM (#18737000)
I esp. deleted the Facebook App over its egregious power usage. I don't care that much about being spied on, or getting better ads when I mentioned a certain keyword, but draining the battery was unexcusable. Mobile uptime on my phone with app 3 hrs, without back to 9 hrs.
Re:Facebook open-sources a speech-recognition system and a m... by pavlov on Friday December 21, 2018 @05:14PM (#18737177)
Twitter, Snapchat, Tumblr etc. are also battery hogs. The Facebook app is no worse and generally better (IME).

Scrolling through a social media feed is a heavy activity on a phone (which may be surprising because it seems passive). Constantly fetching more data from servers, decoding incoming images and videos in background threads, shuffling data to GPU-accessible buffers for fast scrolling, etc. — There’s a lot going on all the time when you’re scrolling mindlessly.