Re:Alphabet spinoff Malta raises $26M for technology to stor...
by ams6110 on Wednesday December 19, 2018 @10:06PM
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How can energy be stored as cold? Cold is by definition the absence of energy.
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Re:Alphabet spinoff Malta raises $26M for technology to stor...
by antidesitter on Wednesday December 19, 2018 @10:11PM
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Temperature differences are what drive heat engines, i.e. you need a hot and a cold(er) reservoir. A nice demonstration of this is a handheld Stirling engine, which you can power by placing ice at the bottom (since itβs colder than the surrounding environment).
Re:Alphabet spinoff Malta raises $26M for technology to stor...
by ams6110 on Thursday December 20, 2018 @08:47AM
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Okay, but technically you're storing the energy in the environment, not in the cold reservoir. Maybe a distinction not worth making.
Re:Alphabet spinoff Malta raises $26M for technology to stor...
by starbeast on Wednesday December 19, 2018 @10:58PM
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0 - you must play the game
1 - you can never win
2 - you can only break even on a very cold day << f.n.
3 - it never ever gets that cold
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f.n. >> the maximum efficiency of the work that can be extracted from a heat cycle is dependent on the relative difference between the hot end and the cold end and absolute zero. The closer you can get the cold end to zero relative to the hot, the higher the efficiency. The energy of a heat engine comes from the potential. If everything is equally hot there is no potential energy just as much as if everything is equally cold. If there is a gradient, you can do work.
Re:Alphabet spinoff Malta raises $26M for technology to stor...
by robertelder on Wednesday December 19, 2018 @10:32PM
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