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Re:Man sues feds after being detained for refusing to unlock... by superkuh on Wednesday December 19, 2018 @01:49AM (#18713632)
Don't forget that the border zone extends 100 miles in from the actual border (including the great lakes). Most US people live their entire lives in the constitution free zone where this kind of violation is allowed.
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Re:Man sues feds after being detained for refusing to unlock... by ams6110 on Wednesday December 19, 2018 @02:11AM (#18713762)
However the authority using "border zone" justification for a warrantless search must also have probable cause to believe you have recently crossed the border.
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Re:Man sues feds after being detained for refusing to unlock... by jacobush on Wednesday December 19, 2018 @02:43AM (#18713913)
How probable?
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Re:Man sues feds after being detained for refusing to unlock... by hawaiianbrah on Wednesday December 19, 2018 @01:57AM (#18713677)
“Most people” seems like a bit of a stretch...
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Re:Man sues feds after being detained for refusing to unlock... by nickysielicki on Wednesday December 19, 2018 @01:59AM (#18713699)
It's not. https://www.aclu.org/know-your-rights-100-mile-border-zone
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Re:Man sues feds after being detained for refusing to unlock... by ilikepi on Wednesday December 19, 2018 @02:02AM (#18713710)
Not at all[0]. The continental coastline is an "external boundary".

[0]: https://www.aclu.org/other/constitution-100-mile-border-zone

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Re:Man sues feds after being detained for refusing to unlock... by geggam on Wednesday December 19, 2018 @04:17AM (#18714347)
When you get technical about this 100 miles from every international airport is a border as well...

How does that impact that map ?

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Re:Man sues feds after being detained for refusing to unlock... by TomMarius on Wednesday December 19, 2018 @04:24AM (#18714378)
There is no actual country border at any airport. It's an approximation that has its own rules and is not affected by the international treaty that sets these 100 miles.
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Re:Man sues feds after being detained for refusing to unlock... by taejo on Wednesday December 19, 2018 @05:39AM (#18714712)
The 100 miles have nothing to do with international treaty, but only American courts' interpretation of the fourth amendment.
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Re:Man sues feds after being detained for refusing to unlock... by TomMarius on Wednesday December 19, 2018 @05:50AM (#18714751)
Isn't that based on the treaty? Sorry if I'm mistaken.
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Re:Man sues feds after being detained for refusing to unlock... by taejo on Wednesday December 19, 2018 @08:56AM (#18715585)
I'm not sure which treaty you're thinking of, but I'm pretty certain it's a purely domestic matter. Note that we're talking about 100 miles inland from the border, not something like 100 miles out to sea.
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Re:Man sues feds after being detained for refusing to unlock... by TomMarius on Wednesday December 19, 2018 @09:55AM (#18715957)
Yeah, that's my mistake. I thought we're talking out, not in.
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Re:Man sues feds after being detained for refusing to unlock... by wolco on Wednesday December 19, 2018 @02:00AM (#18713704)
65.3 percent live within the border zone.
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Re:Man sues feds after being detained for refusing to unlock... by bonestamp2 on Wednesday December 19, 2018 @03:08AM (#18714038)
The "most people" actually comes from the part he left out... it's not just 100 miles from any border, it's 100 miles from any international airport, which does include most people.
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Re:Man sues feds after being detained for refusing to unlock... by dsfyu404ed on Wednesday December 19, 2018 @07:58AM (#18715258)
IIRC the "100 miles from an airport" part was requested/proposed but never actually happened (presumably because the FBI gang didn't want the CBP gang on it's turf).
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Re:Man sues feds after being detained for refusing to unlock... by angry_octet on Thursday December 20, 2018 @04:45AM (#18723600)
No, an intl airport is a point of entry, but not a border.
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Re:Man sues feds after being detained for refusing to unlock... by bonestamp2 on Thursday December 20, 2018 @10:47AM (#18725861)
True, but it looks like the "100 miles from an airport" part of the law was not enacted after all. My mistake.
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