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Re:As Facebook Raised a Privacy Wall, It Carved an Opening f... by skybrian on Tuesday December 18, 2018 @10:19PM (#18712748)
One possibility would be that Facebook users were supposed to be able to read, write, and delete their own chat messages via custom chat clients built by Spotify, Netflix, and so on.

If so, the New York Times is throwing shade on Facebook basically for not being enough of a walled garden. I hope their journalists are not that confused?

Re:As Facebook Raised a Privacy Wall, It Carved an Opening f... by makomk on Wednesday December 19, 2018 @07:07AM (#18715075)
They have been exactly that confused (or possibly intentionally deceptive) in the past. One of their previous articles pretended that Facebook, by giving users the ability to log in and interact with their friends via a built-in manufacturer app on their Huawei smartphones, was actually giving those friends' data to Huawei: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/06/03/technology/fa...
Re:As Facebook Raised a Privacy Wall, It Carved an Opening f... by Puer on Wednesday December 19, 2018 @01:13AM (#18713487)
Yeah, I think nytimes is intentionally being misleading here. I don't doubt FB made some shady deals with the big tech companies, but it seems like they're conflating granting app permissions so that certain functions like sharing Spotify songs over Messenger work with granting access to all user data.
Re:As Facebook Raised a Privacy Wall, It Carved an Opening f... by InclinedPlane on Tuesday December 18, 2018 @10:28PM (#18712787)
That would grant the app access to those permissions, not the companies.

Oh hey, would you look at that: https://www.theverge.com/2017/8/14/16143354/facebook-messeng...

Re:As Facebook Raised a Privacy Wall, It Carved an Opening f... by skybrian on Tuesday December 18, 2018 @10:59PM (#18712890)
I'm a bit worried that some journalists (and some readers) no longer care to make any distinction between an app having access for legitimate reasons that respect users' intentions and the whole company having access to do whatever they like. At least, they don't explain it well.
Re:As Facebook Raised a Privacy Wall, It Carved an Opening f... by thaumasiotes on Tuesday December 18, 2018 @11:43PM (#18713068)
The distinction doesn't exist in practical terms. The company controls the behavior of the app; the fact that an app has access for legitimate reasons doesn't mean that any given use of the access was for legitimate reasons.
Re:As Facebook Raised a Privacy Wall, It Carved an Opening f... by skybrian on Wednesday December 19, 2018 @12:27AM (#18713271)
I don't think this article made the case that the access granted was unreasonable.
Re:As Facebook Raised a Privacy Wall, It Carved an Opening f... by UncleMeat on Wednesday December 19, 2018 @12:23PM (#18717330)
Mark my words. There is going to be an article that grossly misunderstands oauth and tells people that facebook, twitter, etc, are all giving access user information to third party's willy nilly and that there is an entire system widely used across the web for encouraging this sort of behavior.