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Re:SpaceX Is Raising $500M at a $30.5B Valuation by mikejb on Tuesday December 18, 2018 @01:29PM (#18709128)
> Most ISS components were less than the Falcon 9's capacity.

I want to see the attempt of building the ISS with a Falcon 9. Some assembly launches would be within lift capacity (especially on the expendable configuration). Some payloads would actually fit in the fairing. But when you have it in orbit - what then? The Space Shuttle not only lifted the modules into space, it berthed them to the station, and carried the crew together with the payload to execute the assembly operations and be able to react in time.

As much as I agree that the Space Shuttle was way too expensive, it was irreplaceable for building the ISS, and had it existed back then, the Falcon 9 wouldn't have changed that.

Re:SpaceX Is Raising $500M at a $30.5B Valuation by avar on Tuesday December 18, 2018 @05:45PM (#18711313)
If it was irreplaceable how did the Soviet Union / Russia build Mir? A space station 1/3 the weight of the ISS and incrementally assembled in space from multiple modules.
Re:SpaceX Is Raising $500M at a $30.5B Valuation by mikejb on Wednesday December 19, 2018 @01:56AM (#18713676)
They built it with a lot of drawbacks: Small modules, complex assembly, requiring modules to have their own propulsion systems, etc.

Plus, since this seems to get forgotten a lot, size matters. I find the best size comparison between the ISS and MIR is with the Space Shuttle attached: ISS [1] vs Mir [2].

[1] https://www.nasa.gov/sites/default/files/styles/full_width_f...

[2] https://apod.nasa.gov/apod/image/0210/shuttlemir_nasa_big.jp...

Re:SpaceX Is Raising $500M at a $30.5B Valuation by avar on Wednesday December 19, 2018 @02:21PM (#18718521)
That's if anything an argument for a Saturn V carrying some platform that would look like the flight deck / cargo bay / Canadarm part of the Space Shuttle to orbit to help with in-orbit assembly.

Sure, you might need some such platform to construct something in orbit. That's basically a space forklift with thrusters.

It isn't an argument for Space Shuttle system as a whole, i.e. propulsion system, heat shield, solid rocket boosters & external tank, being needed.

For what it cost to launch the shuttle such a platform could have been entirely expendable with astronauts returning in capsules, and they'd still have saved money, and been able to take up 3-4x the amount of cargo up on each trip.