Glitter bomb tricks parcel thieves

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Re:Glitter bomb tricks parcel thieves by deadmetheny on Tuesday December 18, 2018 @01:11PM (#18708908)

Yes, that shining paragon of virtue that is well-loved by everybody, the HOA.

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Re:Glitter bomb tricks parcel thieves by scarejunba on Tuesday December 18, 2018 @01:18PM (#18708991)

Haha, Revealed Preferences show that people don’t abhor them as much as they say. They choose to live there for all the lovely things they provide and enforce.

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Re:Glitter bomb tricks parcel thieves by deadmetheny on Tuesday December 18, 2018 @03:49PM (#18710396)

Do they choose to live within HOA neighborhoods, or do they have little choice given that over half of the residential homes in the USA are bound by one? I would like to see if your source claims people like the HOA or if they are forced to tolerate them due to lack of options.

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Re:Glitter bomb tricks parcel thieves by MrMorden on Tuesday December 18, 2018 @04:43PM (#18710862)

Developers in the US have no choice; the city/county won't permit a subdivision without an HOA.

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Re:Glitter bomb tricks parcel thieves by dragonwriter on Tuesday December 18, 2018 @05:44PM (#18711309)

Developers love HOAs, they initially (until the development is largely sold) completely control them and they are a tool for maintaining the image they want to sell later units. No one is forcing developers to have HOAs. (If there is policy favoring them, it was lobbied for by developers.)

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Re:Glitter bomb tricks parcel thieves by bena on Tuesday December 18, 2018 @07:21PM (#18711895)

It also allows them to reclaim and resell units while swindling the people who bought the lot.

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Re:Glitter bomb tricks parcel thieves by dvtrn on Tuesday December 18, 2018 @02:44PM (#18709825)

What I’m proposing is simply that we privatize large parts of society and exclude people from the private areas based on their tendency to be bad actors.

Have these people been convicted of crimes?

Because if they haven't, then yes, actually you are absolutely advocating restricting freedoms, and stumbling dangerously close to advocating redlining which has been illegal in the US for decades.

Edit:

Pardon my double post, I think a page got stuck loading on me somewhere.

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Re:Glitter bomb tricks parcel thieves by scarejunba on Wednesday December 19, 2018 @12:23AM (#18713250)

No more than you're curtailing my freedom by not letting me into your home. I've been convicted of nothing but you won't just let me into your home.

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Re:Glitter bomb tricks parcel thieves by dvtrn on Wednesday December 19, 2018 @12:44PM (#18717556)

An individual private citizen not letting you onto their property is categorically different from the state passing laws dictating where individuals who aren't prisoners, captives or wards of the state may travel, commune, and reside--and it's an astonishing notion that anyone would try to conflate one with the other and expect to be taken seriously when they say it's "not about curtailing freedom".

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Re:Glitter bomb tricks parcel thieves by scarejunba on Wednesday December 19, 2018 @06:32PM (#18721018)

Ah, but I wasn't requiring the state to pass laws. Only for the state to allow for private enterprise to build safe places using this trust factor.

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Re:Glitter bomb tricks parcel thieves by dvtrn on Thursday December 20, 2018 @11:08AM (#18726079)

Ah, but I wasn't requiring the state to pass laws

A word of advice then: best state that immediately from the very beginning next time, instead of equivocating your way around the point for days. The minute you start talking about "curtailing freedom" there is one inextricable link that conjures in the mind from this type of language: the state.

Backing off it once the horse has been beaten into putty to say "oh I wasn't talking about the state" just looks like you're doing all of this for sport and not attempting to hold an actual meaningful position before finding a convenient escape hatch out of the discussion.

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Re:Glitter bomb tricks parcel thieves by btilly on Tuesday December 18, 2018 @02:59PM (#18709976)

I am trying to understand the mentality of someone who can say Like a massive HOA while thinking that this is a good thing.

Have you never dealt with an HOA in your life? Have you never known someone who has?

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Re:Glitter bomb tricks parcel thieves by scarejunba on Wednesday December 19, 2018 @12:29AM (#18713286)

I mean, like half of all Americans choose to live in HOA covered areas. They love to hate them. They don't actually hate them.

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Re:Glitter bomb tricks parcel thieves by aaron-santos on Tuesday December 18, 2018 @01:36PM (#18709198)

Expect this to be immediately co-opted by political camps to exacerbate and codify divisions that exist today.

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Re:Glitter bomb tricks parcel thieves by scarejunba on Tuesday December 18, 2018 @02:14PM (#18709610)

Is that so bad? We can protect human freedom through the US constitution.

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Re:Glitter bomb tricks parcel thieves by dsfyu404ed on Tuesday December 18, 2018 @04:28PM (#18710758)

The 2nd-6th amendment have not exactly been effective at protecting the human rights they affirm at the state and city level. Where I live I have to get permission from the government (good luck if you're not white) to own the tools to defend myself from physical harm and the government can stop me and seize my property on a whim.

I believe we need more defense in depth. We need our human rights to be protected by every level of government and informally by society itself.

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Re:Glitter bomb tricks parcel thieves by snazz on Tuesday December 18, 2018 @01:08PM (#18708890)

I think “denying food, shelter, and water” counts as curtailing people’s freedom.

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Re:Glitter bomb tricks parcel thieves by Frondo on Tuesday December 18, 2018 @02:20PM (#18709656)

You are absolutely proposing restricting freedom, just that you want to be the one defining how to do so, i.e. you want to be in charge.

It is a story as old as time.

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Re:Glitter bomb tricks parcel thieves by scarejunba on Wednesday December 19, 2018 @12:25AM (#18713263)

Would you let me into your house? How is this any different?

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