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Re:Why Design Thinking Works by kitten_mittens_ on Monday December 17, 2018 @03:19AM (#18697607)
> relegitimizing nicotine addiction

You should visit Europe where smoking doesn't have nearly the amount of stigmatization it does in America.

There are smoking rooms within my office in Germany, and the rooms smell like an American restaurant circa ‘95.

Re:Why Design Thinking Works by sonnyblarney on Monday December 17, 2018 @04:58AM (#18697954)
Yes, I lived in Germany, it's a throwback. But your comment makes it seem as though the Euros have some bohemian progressive outlook in the issue; this is not nude sunbathing, this is smoking, it kills people for sure :).
Re:Why Design Thinking Works by Ma8ee on Monday December 17, 2018 @08:26AM (#18698769)
Don’t generalise Germany to the whole of Europe. As a Swede that just came back from a visit to Germany I was actually appalled by how much you smoke there.
Re:Why Design Thinking Works by Vinnl on Monday December 17, 2018 @08:24AM (#18698764)
I'm not sure whether you can generalise over Europe that easily. There's quite the stigma on smoking in the Netherlands, which has for the largest part gained a foothold after banning smoking in working places (including cafés and bars). I haven't heard of a Dutch workplace offering special smoking rooms so far.
Re:Why Design Thinking Works by kitten_mittens_ on Monday December 17, 2018 @12:45PM (#18700556)
Can you smoke in Dutch bars? One thing that I was horrified by in the Netherlands was people smoking right at entrances to buildings. In the US, you have to be 20 ft (~6 meters) from entrances when you smoke.
Re:Why Design Thinking Works by Vinnl on Tuesday December 18, 2018 @04:02AM (#18705339)
Smoking in general has been prohibited for a few years. Many bars still have special smoking rooms, but they are on the verge of being prohibited as well. Smoking near entrances is, indeed, still often allowed, but that too is getting more and more pushback, and the number of places that allow it is clearly decreasing.

Point being: there's a clear stigma against smoking here, and wherever we're "behind" in terms of pushing back against smoking, we are heading in the same direction.