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Re:Serverless Computing: One Step Forward, Two Steps Back by orthecreedence on Saturday December 15, 2018 @04:38PM (#18690477)
I love how everyone always shat on PHP (the original serverless technology...convince me otherwise) and now everyone is scrambling to reinvent PHP.
Re:Serverless Computing: One Step Forward, Two Steps Back by CharlesW on Saturday December 15, 2018 @06:14PM (#18690876)
> I love how everyone always shat on PHP (the original serverless technology...

I like and use PHP, and you absolutely can create serverless solutions with PHP, but you may be confusing "serverless" with "stateless". PHP itself is in no way intrinsically more "serverless" than other options.

Re:Serverless Computing: One Step Forward, Two Steps Back by mypalmike on Saturday December 15, 2018 @07:43PM (#18691138)
Does PHP automatically scale infrastructure to meet demand? Can you bring up 1000 instances of your service for spikes in volume? And then scale back down when the spike is over? Without writing code?

Nobody is reinventing PHP.

Re:Serverless Computing: One Step Forward, Two Steps Back by CamTin on Sunday December 16, 2018 @11:56AM (#18693847)
Totally stateless PHP apps (retrieving and storing state at the top and bottom of each request) plus autoscaling based on CPU load starts to look pretty close to Lambdas + scheduled tasks to keep them "warm". This is how most LAMP apps are/were built, notably Wordpress.

The real pain point in any auto-scaling/cloud/serverless application is and will probably always be the stateful bits. I think the first cloud provider to really figure out this killer bit will be the ultimate winner of the cloud wars. It will probably look something like Amazon's "Aurora Serverless" but be even more frictionless.

Re:Serverless Computing: One Step Forward, Two Steps Back by bartread on Sunday December 16, 2018 @03:44PM (#18695114)
> Does PHP automatically scale infrastructure to meet demand? Can you bring up 1000 instances of your service for spikes in volume? And then scale back down when the spike is over? Without writing code?

People talk about this a lot. I wonder, for what percentage of systems, this kind of scalability is really a requirement. I also wonder what percentage of devs work on these kind of systems.

Re:Serverless Computing: One Step Forward, Two Steps Back by toddh on Saturday December 15, 2018 @04:48PM (#18690528)
Don't forget perl and CGI as the even more original serverless tech.
Re:Serverless Computing: One Step Forward, Two Steps Back by fuball63 on Saturday December 15, 2018 @05:14PM (#18690664)
That's why I made http://bigcgi.com. It's just CGI behind a reverse proxy that handles file sync between hosts. My blog runs on it.
Re:Serverless Computing: One Step Forward, Two Steps Back by captainperl on Monday December 17, 2018 @02:26AM (#18697440)
BigCGI looks interesting. I signed up for your newsletter.
Re:Serverless Computing: One Step Forward, Two Steps Back by fuball63 on Monday December 17, 2018 @05:28PM (#18702839)
Thats great, thanks! Im working on getting the blog up and running, and plan to cross post there, along with any news about the platform. Feel free to email me any suggestions... my address is on the bigcgi site.