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Re:China harvested organs from political prisoners, says tri... by dang on Friday December 14, 2018 @02:35AM (#18679150)
Please don't post ideological or nationalistic flamebait to HN. It's not what this site is for, and this sort of outraged atrocity contest is just what we don't need—regardless of how valid your underlying points are.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re:China harvested organs from political prisoners, says tri... by matthewmacleod on Thursday December 13, 2018 @04:25PM (#18676281)
Could we all just calm down a little bit with the rhetoric?

The United States has serious and growing problems around its global support for human rights. The domestic policies it exhibits mirror that; there are clearly long-term problems that are deeply worrying.

But support for human rights is not a binary state. The United States has the rule of law, freedom of speech and religion, a functioning judicial system, and an army of human rights specialists who operate freely. It supports many of these initiatives in other countries, both as a society and a government. The fact that the country does many awful things does not mean that other countries should have a free pass to implement arbitrary policies free of criticism.

No country in the world has a perfect record of protecting human rights, but that should not prevent them calling for change elsewhere. I hope deeply that the US fixes its problems soon, but that does not stop me from being aware that organ harvesting and political assassinations are also bad.

Re:China harvested organs from political prisoners, says tri... by prepend on Thursday December 13, 2018 @04:21PM (#18676248)
On the scale of human rights, having your rights restricted in planning children (ie, restricting abortion) and having your organs removed are very far apart.
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Re:China harvested organs from political prisoners, says tri... by prepend on Thursday December 13, 2018 @05:21PM (#18676664)
First, I think the US sterilized munorities was over 50 years ago [0]. Quite horrible, but not recent like the alleged harvesting. But even so, being sterilized is substantially better than being murdered for your organs.

The US has some sordid history, but not organ harvesting last week sordid.

The immigration separations are timely, but have some due process with an intention reuniting families (ie, the design is not to separate families more than necessary) and also better than being murdered.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compulsory_sterilization

Re:China harvested organs from political prisoners, says tri... by XCabbage on Thursday December 13, 2018 @05:17PM (#18676645)
> Having a policy of actively kidnapping children from immigrants and then selling them in auctions while dumping the parents on a different continent?

I'll bite, although I have a feeling I'm about to be screamed at for being an ignorant bigot for lacking this specific piece of knowledge: what on earth this comment referring to? The claim is that the present-day US is selling children in auctions who were taken from their parents by force? What?

Re:China harvested organs from political prisoners, says tri... by UnFleshedOne on Thursday December 13, 2018 @07:47PM (#18677500)
OP might be referring to recent news about current administration separating children from illegal immigrants and having them (the children) defend themselves in immigration courts. Not sure about auction part.
Re:China harvested organs from political prisoners, says tri... by jtbayly on Thursday December 13, 2018 @04:51PM (#18676462)
Abortion is itself a breach of Universal Declaration of Human Rights, including articles 3 (right to life), 6 (recognition as a person before the law), 7 (equality before the law).
Re:China harvested organs from political prisoners, says tri... by pnathan on Thursday December 13, 2018 @05:53PM (#18676884)
You are equating a fetus with a fully developed human being. That is not medically verifiable.
Re:China harvested organs from political prisoners, says tri... by ithilglin909 on Thursday December 13, 2018 @05:58PM (#18676917)
An adolescent isn't a fully developed human being, aka an adult. That's medically verifiable.